I can definitely see your point Peter.

I'm still on the fence as to whether or not it would be a good business
strategy for Apple.  I would like to think that it would, but I think to
gain a lot more market share, they should focus on other things first.
Being a recent convert to the MacBook Pro laptop, I have quite enjoyed
programming and playing with Java on the Mac.


On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Peter Becker <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> I'm not saying that people who use Macs don't care about Java. I'm
> saying that Apple doesn't need to do much for Java to keep them.
>
> The post I originally replied to made the assumption that having a more
> up-to-date Java would be a good business strategy for Apple.
>
>  Peter
>
>
>
> Ryan Waterer wrote:
> > Just because you own a Mac, doesn't mean that you don't care about
> > Java.  In all the companies that I've worked for, not a single one
> > ever was on the latest, greatest small update of Java.   In fact, the
> > company that I work for just started switching to Java 1.5.  All but
> > one of the 3rd party vendor software that the company uses is still on
> > 1.4!  One of the products do not have short or mid-term plans of
> > upgrading to 1.5 or 1.6.
> >
> > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Peter Becker <peter.becker.de
> > <http://peter.becker.de>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     Joey Gibson wrote:
> >     > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Peter Becker <peter.becker.de
> >     <http://peter.becker.de>
> >     > <http://peter.becker.de>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>
> >     <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     How many people really care about having the latest Java?
> >     How many of
> >     >     those still use Macs? Whatever is left is the market you
> >     miss out on,
> >     >     and that just doesn't seem much to me.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > I have a Mac Pro and I really wish Apple would keep up with Sun's
> >     > releases. The 6u13 ADC release is a good sign, but I'm not
> convinced
> >     > yet that Apple is really (still) committed to Java. How many people
> >     > were at JavaOne in 2000 (2001?) when Steve Jobs was McNealy's
> >     surprise
> >     > keynote guest and said that Apple was going to make the Mac the
> >     > premiere platform for Java development? I was there, and they
> >     followed
> >     > through on that promise, for a while. It's been pretty sad the last
> >     > two years or so. But again, the latest release is encouraging.
> >     >
> >     So you are in the second group: people who care about Java but
> >     still use
> >     Macs. Whatever it is that makes you stay with Apple, it is probably
> >     better for them to invest in that than a more up-to-date Java.
> >     After all
> >     you don't care enough about Java to make you abandon their
> >     products. In
> >     the end it is all a question of what's the bottom line.
> >
> >      Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
>
> >
>

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