All are under the assumption that it's impossible to use anything but OS X on a Mac.
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Ryan Waterer <[email protected]>wrote: > I can definitely see your point Peter. > > I'm still on the fence as to whether or not it would be a good business > strategy for Apple. I would like to think that it would, but I think to > gain a lot more market share, they should focus on other things first. > Being a recent convert to the MacBook Pro laptop, I have quite enjoyed > programming and playing with Java on the Mac. > > > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Peter Becker > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> I'm not saying that people who use Macs don't care about Java. I'm >> saying that Apple doesn't need to do much for Java to keep them. >> >> The post I originally replied to made the assumption that having a more >> up-to-date Java would be a good business strategy for Apple. >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> Ryan Waterer wrote: >> > Just because you own a Mac, doesn't mean that you don't care about >> > Java. In all the companies that I've worked for, not a single one >> > ever was on the latest, greatest small update of Java. In fact, the >> > company that I work for just started switching to Java 1.5. All but >> > one of the 3rd party vendor software that the company uses is still on >> > 1.4! One of the products do not have short or mid-term plans of >> > upgrading to 1.5 or 1.6. >> > >> > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Peter Becker <peter.becker.de >> > <http://peter.becker.de>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Joey Gibson wrote: >> > > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Peter Becker <peter.becker.de >> > <http://peter.becker.de> >> > > <http://peter.becker.de>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com> >> > <http://gmail.com>> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > How many people really care about having the latest Java? >> > How many of >> > > those still use Macs? Whatever is left is the market you >> > miss out on, >> > > and that just doesn't seem much to me. >> > > >> > > >> > > I have a Mac Pro and I really wish Apple would keep up with Sun's >> > > releases. The 6u13 ADC release is a good sign, but I'm not >> convinced >> > > yet that Apple is really (still) committed to Java. How many >> people >> > > were at JavaOne in 2000 (2001?) when Steve Jobs was McNealy's >> > surprise >> > > keynote guest and said that Apple was going to make the Mac the >> > > premiere platform for Java development? I was there, and they >> > followed >> > > through on that promise, for a while. It's been pretty sad the >> last >> > > two years or so. But again, the latest release is encouraging. >> > > >> > So you are in the second group: people who care about Java but >> > still use >> > Macs. Whatever it is that makes you stay with Apple, it is probably >> > better for them to invest in that than a more up-to-date Java. >> > After all >> > you don't care enough about Java to make you abandon their >> > products. In >> > the end it is all a question of what's the bottom line. >> > >> > Peter >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > > -- Viktor Klang Rockstar Developer --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
