The Ruby community is very odd.  Really smart, innovative bunch of
people.  But they think IDEs are a waste and dropping to C code is how
you get performance.

I love the ruby language.  more fun coding in it than anything I've
ever used.  but the runtime is junk.  I think once invoke dynamic is
fully baked and JRuby becomes 5x faster than all the other (terrible)
ruby run-times the ruby community will have no choice but to embrace
the JVM.  Then everyone can say "nanny nanny, we told you so" :)




On Jul 23, 11:09 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote:
> But RoR and the ruby community deserve most of that derision. Let's
> cover some facts:
>
> 1) While pythonistas are dyed in the wool java bashers, they at least
> tend to put in a smidge of tact when they go about their ways. Ruby
> fanboys almost invariably /flip the heck out/ when talking about java.
> Completely off the rails (hahah! I made a funny!)
>
> 2) Ruby doesn't really have a language spec. It's a patchy mess. Some
> people love it. The people who like java usually prefer everything
> defined very carefully (as a slapdash 'we'll see where this takes us'
> kind of thing just isn't done in the java community, so the people who
> like that aren't in the java community any more). I feel its perfectly
> normal to heap some derision on ruby for it.
>
> 3) Read any of many blog articles by Zed Shaw about the deplorable
> state of the ruby community.
>
> 4) Go find either a job working with Ruby / RoR, or try to find a good
> Ruby / RoR programmer. Now do the same with Python / Django. World of
> difference. Of course, if this ruby/RoR bashing takes hold, that will
> end. Popularity isn't _always_ a good thing :P
>
> On Jul 24, 6:06 am, phil swenson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm guessing the obvious ruby dislike comes from the anti-java hate
> > from the ruby community.
>
> > But I find it amusing that a lot of the people who dismiss Ruby love
> > Groovy.  Let's face it, 90% of Groovy is a copy of Ruby.
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