Mikael Grev wrote:
> The only sensible thing they can do for JavaFX is to add:
>
> 1) One kick-ass designer that is better than Matisse
> 2) One kick-ass manual layout manager
> 3) An easy and predictable way to move back and forth between 1 and 2.
>
Plus
4) A sufficiently broad component set for business apps (table,
tree, combobox, etc)
At that point (and only then) will JavaFX be ready to take over in
corporate intranet use cases.
--
Jess Holle
> On Jul 27, 1:29 pm, Jess Holle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think JavaFX could and probably should speak to the requirements and
>> use cases currently addressed by Swing.
>>
>> I'd agree that it currently doesn't, however -- it does not provide
>> enough components, no layout appropriate for complex forms, nor a GUI
>> layout tool oriented at complex layout of components rather than working
>> with designer assets.
>>
>> Chas Emerick wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Dick Wall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matisse is obviously a bit of an evolutionary dead-
>>>> end now with JavaFX in the picture, but I appreciate environments that
>>>> give me this kind of GUI constructor kit (like FlexBuilder for
>>>> example) and get me back to the stuff that I am really interested in
>>>> writing.
>>>>
>>> I suppose I'll be the one to say it -- JavaFX doesn't speak at all to
>>> our requirements or use-cases, while Swing did and does. Given that,
>>> Matisse remains part of our core toolset, and none of the murmurings
>>> around the JavaFX "designer tool" have given me any hope that that
>>> will change anytime soon.
>>>
>>> I'm certain I'm not the only one with that perspective, so I'd hope
>>> that we could stay away from stuff like saying Matisse/Swing/et al.
>>> are 'evolutionary dead-ends'. UI is all about getting pixels on the
>>> screen in the way that will achieve the customers' goals -- nothing
>>> more, nothing less -- and given that JavaFX is just another layer on
>>> top of AWT, I think everyone would be better served by not thinking
>>> about the former as some wholly-new revolutionary technology.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> - Chas
>>>
> >
>
>
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