lol Are you asking Mikael Grev whether he has looked into MigLayout,
or am I just reading this wrong?

On 27 Jul., 18:08, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have you looked into MigLayout? It's pretty sweet.
> On Jul 27, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Mikael Grev wrote:
>
>
>
> > The only sensible thing they can do for JavaFX is to add:
>
> > 1) One kick-ass designer that is better than Matisse
> > 2) One kick-ass manual layout manager
> > 3) An easy and predictable way to move back and forth between 1 and 2.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Mikael Grev
>
> > On Jul 27, 1:29 pm, Jess Holle <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I think JavaFX could and probably should speak to the requirements  
> >> and
> >> use cases currently addressed by Swing.
>
> >> I'd agree that it currently doesn't, however -- it does not provide
> >> enough components, no layout appropriate for complex forms, nor a GUI
> >> layout tool oriented at complex layout of components rather than  
> >> working
> >> with designer assets.
>
> >> Chas Emerick wrote:
> >>> On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Dick Wall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> Matisse is obviously a bit of an evolutionary dead-
> >>>> end now with JavaFX in the picture, but I appreciate environments  
> >>>> that
> >>>> give me this kind of GUI constructor kit (like FlexBuilder for
> >>>> example) and get me back to the stuff that I am really interested  
> >>>> in
> >>>> writing.
>
> >>> I suppose I'll be the one to say it -- JavaFX doesn't speak at all  
> >>> to
> >>> our requirements or use-cases, while Swing did and does.  Given  
> >>> that,
> >>> Matisse remains part of our core toolset, and none of the murmurings
> >>> around the JavaFX "designer tool" have given me any hope that that
> >>> will change anytime soon.
>
> >>> I'm certain I'm not the only one with that perspective, so I'd hope
> >>> that we could stay away from stuff like saying Matisse/Swing/et al.
> >>> are 'evolutionary dead-ends'.  UI is all about getting pixels on the
> >>> screen in the way that will achieve the customers' goals -- nothing
> >>> more, nothing less -- and given that JavaFX is just another layer on
> >>> top of AWT, I think everyone would be better served by not thinking
> >>> about the former as some wholly-new revolutionary technology.
>
> >>> Cheers,
>
> >>> - Chas
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