Corporations are not people. They are neither good nor evil. Let's not anthropomorphize them. They make money, or at least try to. That's it. Microsoft made a bunch of money, as did Apple. They've both made moves some people were irked by and they continue to do that. They both try to control as much of their market segment as they can. If you're on the receiving end of the money, life is good. If you're feeling stepped on as a consumer or a developer, not so much. Either way, they are corporations with no more moral character than a tidal wave.
Alexey 2001 Honda CBR600F4i (CCS) 2002 Suzuki Bandit 1200S 1992 Kawasaki EX500 http://azinger.blogspot.com http://bsheet.sourceforge.net http://wcollage.sourceforge.net ________________________________ From: carl <[email protected]> To: The Java Posse <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 1:42:36 PM Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record I'm still in the camp with Tor. I think historically Microsoft has built its business on questionable ethics, going back almost 30 years. Selling mediocre products in monopoly-controlled markets. Forcing OEMs to bundle Windows. etc. Maybe they are getting better, but they now have the burden to prove that they can "play nice". At least to me I am once or more bitten. Apple on the other hand has mostly tried to compete by making innovative products with excellent user experience. They gained large market share with the iPod and iPhone with good products, not with shady deals. But I do agree now that they are on a slippery slope with some of their aggressive lock-in tactics. I'll keep using their products as long as they make my life easier. But, who knows, I may end up with an Android phone next, and use it along side my MacBook Pro and iPad :) On Apr 9, 5:07 am, zeevb <[email protected]> wrote: > On Apr 9, 1:44 am, Tor Norbye <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I know that Apple is very unpopular right now for having a closed > > garden, and I think we all wish things were more open. But that's not > > the same as the things we've seen from Microsoft in the past > > You may be right but it seems that Apple is heading in that direction > and their "closed garden" is full of thorns. > The first one, which I think the Posse mentioned in the past > (regarding the iPhone) is the banning of Java from the iPhone OS. I > recall that in the early days of the iPhone you had some hopes > (especially Dick) that Java support will arrive - but it didn't. Then > you mentioned that it may arrive by cross compilation but now with the > release of the iPhone OS 4 SDK Apple is banning any cross compilation > so there will be no Java (or any other language besides Objective-C, C > and C++). I expected that the JAVA Posse will show a bit more > criticism for a company banning the use of the Java language on its > platform. > > Second - the app store approval process - Dick mentioned the ban of > Google Voice which was clearly done for non-technical reasons. As I > mantioned before in this group, Paul Graham has a well written blog > post on this -http://www.paulgraham.com/apple.html > > Third - it seems that their HTC patent suite is part of FUD tactics > against Android. Wil Shipley, in an open letter to Steve Jobs > regarding the HTC litigation wrote: > "You’ve famously taken and built on ideas from your competitors, > as have I, as we should, as great artists do. Why is what HTC has done > worse? Whether an idea was patented doesn’t change the morality of > copying it, it only changes the ability to sue. […] > If Apple becomes a company that uses its might to quash > competition instead of using its brains, it’s going to find the > brainiest people will slowly stop working there. You know this, you > watched it happen at Microsoft." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
