Well, JSF is what Java is trying to do with cross implementation of its technologies, definitely to widen its presence..Seems to be the strategy... I am not saying that that is the best part of Java, but just look at what they are trying to do. The amount of code that we have write is reducing like anything everyday..
To be honest, this is clearly a step towards an implementation of the whole suit of options for software development, something that looks like business sense.. Maybe other languages are doing better (C is evergreen in programming languages and always the best in my opinion) , but I just think that the strategy seems to be going in the right direction.. However, will these java guys really deliver is something of a question mark.. One more point though..There seems to be issues in implementation of JSF/JSP/Servlets/Beans using the MVC architecture..The components (objects) are so distributed that the control seems to move from one point to another. WHAT I MEAN IS THAT THERE IS A VERY SMALL ROOM FOR ERROR..ELSE the PERFORMANCE / EXECUTION TIME SEEMS TO BE SUFFERING.. In any case, there are issues in Java and I am sure these Java guys will do something about that.. And again, do you really think that JSf is useless....Why are organizations using it then.. Again, there must be issues but JSf is not that bad...I agree that the implementation seems to be a little tricky but the ability to hide objects and control them (so that projects are not lost to competitors) is something that Java still allows us to do..Maybe this business sense is what is driving JSF and the open-source nature of the technology makes it cost-effective.. Microsoft is just pathetic in its implementation and compatibility with other back-end servers . If you use one MS product, you need to use the entiresuit in the MVC model to get the best results... Again, these are my pointers and I dont expect everyone to agree with my experiences. In any case, there is sense in what Java is trying to do.However, I do agree that life has become a little difficult for the developers these days..Hopefully, the Java guys will note this discussion and do something about this.. Regards, JItesh Dundas On 4/17/10, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 4/17/10 10:56 , Casper Bang wrote: > > Wow, JSF... really? That's easily the most hated view technology > > if you ask around in a JUG or online for that matter > Right (and, personally, I've not been using it since a few years). > Still, I find it quite popular in large enterprises. This brings the > point about how JUGs are representative of the whole set of developers > (my point is that, at least in my country, they aren't). > > - -- > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people > [email protected] > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkvJoyQACgkQeDweFqgUGxeM+ACeLP/BBjNepSGNy7HY4+2iWOd3 > OIIAn2kPVdVGs3K4WzJeGzOIANS2/2dE > =RGkT > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
