On May 12, 7:07 pm, CKoerner <[email protected]> wrote:
> "full web" is the support of HTML/CSS standards as was laid out when
> the web was 'invented'. Proprietary web is Adobe and Microsofts web,
> where vendor lock-in is encouraged through development for proprietary
> plug-ins such as Flash and Silverlight.

Not really. For example, CSS didn't exist at all when the web was
"invented". Furthermore, HTML support in browsers wasn't standardised
at all when the web was "invented": browser makers innovated rapidly
to add capabilities that enabled ever-more compelling web-sites to be
developed.  Most importantly, HTML/CSS is, arguably, *nothing* to do
with with what the web really is at its core. Tim Bray's recent blog
has a great explanation of this point of view:

http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/05/05/HTML5-and-the-Web

The relevant part is...

<QUOTE>

The Web is a tripod, depending critically on three architectural
principles:

    * Pieces of the Web, which we call Resources, are identified by
short strings of characters called “URIs”.
    * Work is accomplished by exchanging messages, which comprise
metadata and representations of Resources.
    * The representations are expressed in a number of well-defined
data formats; you can count on the message data to tell you which one
is in use. It is essential that some of the representation formats be
capable of containing URIs. The “Web” in WWW is that composed by the
universe of Resources linked by the URIs in their representations.

That’s all. You notice that there’s nothing there that depends
crucially on any flavor of HTML.

</QUOTE>

The bottom line is - there's just no getting away from the fact that
the full web includes Flash.  Aside from anything else, some of the
most popular web-sites in the world use it.

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