I think with Apple it is all about the ability to design good user interfaces. Maybe more accurately: the perception thereof.

If someone would manage to create the next great app that works across platforms, then that will weaken their position.

  Peter


On 25/05/10 09:27, Kevin Wright wrote:
:)

I had an interesting thought earlier...

All companies will defend their "core strengths" as strongly as possible, using lawyers etc as necessary.

Google do advertising and searching for products, they're currently being sued for downgrading non-google price comparison sites in search results.

Microsoft do operating [sic] systems and office productivity, they publicised document specs to be able to secure government contracts, but otherwise made them as convoluted and hard to implement as possible. Windows is fairly safe through the available application base.

So what do Apple consider to be a core competency that they are defending here?



On 24 May 2010 23:54, Peter Becker <peter.becker.de <http://peter.becker.de>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> wrote:

    Yes, Kevin. This is the walled garden thread, don't post anything
    that hasn't been cleared with the management. And never ever
    consider changing the subject line, otherwise you get into trouble
    with the Google overlords.

     Peter



    On 25/05/10 01:17, Rakesh wrote:

        I think you posted to the wrong thread Kevin!

        On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Kevin Wright
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:

            Of course, the whole idea of a GUI came out of Xerox PARC,
            it was never
            Apple's invention.
            The GUI was actually invented as a better way to interact
            with the (then)
            new Smalltalk language, ironically one that is now
            restricted from apple's
            "walled garden"
            Even more ironically, Objective-C is basically a
            C/Smalltalk hybrid (the
            memory safety of C coupled with all the blazing speed of
            smalltalk - what's
            not to like!), so it makes sense that C would also be
            allowed.  As for C++?
             That's anybody's guess!


            On 24 May 2010 15:13, jitesh dundas<[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:

                Hey Rakesh,

                No offense,but I just wanted to give my
                opinion.Anyways,please don't
                reply to this question.

                I still think your conversation should be technical
                but I guess people
                are enjoying this..
                'One thing though,apple is really really good in
                bringing out good stuff..

                Please excuse me for the inconvenience.

                Regards,
                jd

                On 5/24/10, Rakesh<[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:

                    Hi Jitesh,

                    its considered a bit rude to hijack someone else's
                    thread.

                    Please start your own to discuss the wonders Apple
                    has bestowed upon us.

                    Cheers

                    R

                    On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:40 PM, jitesh
                    dundas<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                        I agree with this reply. Why are we not
                        talking about the innovations
                        that Apple is bringing out. What about the
                        beautiful GUI that Apple
                        has and which Microsoft just copied..This is
                        what changes business&
                        the way technology evolves..

                        We don't discuss about such things, but just
                        plain old business stuff
                        sometimes....

                        One good question here is to see how Apple
                        takes its inventions and
                        creates a Revolution..

                        COULD WE EXPECT THIS FROM APPLE?

                        Any ideas?

                        Regards,
                        Jitesh Dundas

                        On 5/21/10, Casper Bang<[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:

                                I absolutely think that people are
                                giving Apple a harder time than
                                they would other companies because
                                these people have projected ideals
                                on to them.

                            I disagree. You know what would happen if
                            Microsoft tried some of the
                            stuff Apple has been pulling off? You
                            wouldn't hear the end of it!
                            Jobs rules like Bill Gates never did. Mind
                            you, Apple traditionally
                            has been able to do their monopoly game
                            simply by being small enough
                            for nobody to care. That is no longer the
                            case however; call it the
                            price of success. Apple is bound to get a
                            taste of this, especially as
                            they seem to prefer fist-fights rather
                            than shaking hands.


                                So thats my point - Apple is what
                                Apple does and its really no
                                different than most companies (it
                                wants to make money by cornering a
                                market and locking in users). A lot of
                                you guys (not everyone, just
                                the people really, really horrified at
                                Apple's hypocrisy) just can't
                                face that and need to vent rather than
                                just stop buying the products.

                            Again I think you are attempting to
                            stereotype and oversimplify,
                            meaning none of the replies since your OP
                            really sinked in as viable
                            reasons. It's not about venting but about
                            protecting consumers (even
                            those who do not know they need it) from a
                            mono-culture where you're
                            told what to believe rather than think on
                            your own. That really has
                            nothing specifically to do with capitalism
                            or betrayal, just plain
                            common sense. After all, history is full
                            of examples of what happens
                            when you stop asking questions and just
                            blindly follow.

                            /Casper

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