I agree this point sir.
+1

regards,
jd

On 6/17/10, Phil <[email protected]> wrote:
> Without predudice to Rakesh, this is a general point on feedback to
> the posse.
>
> You can be honest without being rude. The key is to offer constructive
> criticism - suggest things to do that improve your listening
> experience instead of pointing out what you think is wrong. The latter
> always comes across as negative and/or rude no matter how nicely you
> try and phrase it. Much like the phrase "with all due respect" which
> usually means somebody is about to say something that is not
> respectful... at least in my experience (this might be a British turn
> of phrase)
>
> Criticism is so much easier (and instinctive) for most people. It
> takes almost no effort to criticise ("I don't like it" is such a
> short, easy and unconsidered statement), but rather more effort to
> offer a constructive idea to improve something having first considered
> what you don't like and what you'd like to see in its place.
>
> For the academically minded I suggest reading Edward de Bono - the
> handbook for the positive revolution
>
> On Jun 16, 7:56 pm, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't think I'm being rude just honest.
>>
>> I am not saying Joe leave the podcast. I am pointing out issues (for
>> me) in the podcast. The posse can decide for themselves whether to do
>> something or not.
>>
>> Others have already mentioned compromises maybe they could be looked
>> at by the posse.
>>
>> I do think that the argument that they do it in there spare time puts
>> them above constructive, critical feedback is a lot of BS.
>>
>> Just remember that in the java sphere these people are rock stars.
>> They have stages at conferences - heck they even have their own
>> conference!
>>
>> Ultimately I cannot make them do anything they do not want to do. I
>> hope that I am giving them honest and positive feedback so the podcast
>> can improve ( or stop it from going downhill).
>>
>> Rakesh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Greg Reddin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Rakesh <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I told him these days though it seems to be less focused and I don't
>> >> get as much from the podcast as I used to.
>>
>> >> This is mostly due to Joe. His topics are of little interest to me as
>> >> they are barely Java relevant are he demands more of the podcast
>> >> length than he used to. And the Apple discussions are far from
>> >> objective and so pointless.
>>
>> > I haven't really been following this thread closely, but since I
>> > haven't seen much of this perspective I'll go ahead and say it: I
>> > enjoy Joe's input and intend to continue listening as long as the
>> > Posse continue recording. I think it's a bit rude to go into
>> > somebody's house (in this case the Posse's virtual "room") and
>> > complain about the hosts. I guess it's good to give honest feedback
>> > and all, but really, the Posse has no obligation to anybody to do
>> > anything at all and they can talk about whatever they want. If some of
>> > y'all don't like it don't listen. If they lose the audience then maybe
>> > they will stop. I hope not.
>>
>> > Greg
>>
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