Well,that settles it. You cannot deny that more companies will do what apple is doing. I think things will become messy in future ,with top level architecture & third party integration becoming a need of the hour.
So what kind of programs are you writing oscar.Eclipse has a gui plugin for this sort of work.Don't they? If possible,do share your idea with us.Maybe we could help. Regards, jd On 7/4/10, Oscar Hsieh <[email protected]> wrote: > Calm down Robert, I did not say I dont like your post. All I was saying is > to change subject line to reflect the topic. > > I agree that Apple's tight grip can be an issue for a company whose life > relies on their products, but then the opportunity > of that market cannot be ignored too. People often forget IOS is not just > about IPhone, but also millions of IPod Touch out there too. > > Anyway, I am coding on iphone platform mainly because its the first and its > much easier to build nice looking UI there. I tried android a while ago > (1.5) > and its really not fun to build UI on eclipse. I understand android is 2.2 > now so I might revisit it when I have time. > > Thanks for your response. > > > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Robert Casto <[email protected]>wrote: > >> If you don't want to read the post, then don't. No one is forcing you. I >> responded to someone else with an experience I'm going through. That >> doesn't >> mean it is going to be the same for everyone. It could be our ad provider, >> it could be our application category, or a number of other things. >> >> All I'm saying is that Apple is making it very hard for developers to make >> a business of their applications with all these rule changes. They want to >> do just iAds. Fine. But the way they did it I think was inconsiderate. My >> company is also on a number of other phone platforms so iPhone is not the >> only game. That is an advantage but now we are not allowed to merge our >> development efforts. We have to use their tools, their ads, their >> language, >> there ??? It is very hard to create a business with that much >> uncertainty. >> How will you know you can make money? Is it worth your time or will they >> make some unilateral decision that will put you immediately out of >> business >> as they already have to other companies. >> >> This is not a debate about technology. It is about the market and being >> able to build a business around it. I don't see how you can know deal with >> that kind of uncertainty. The options are limited and they keep tightening >> the noose. At some point developers are going to give up because the risk >> is >> too high for the potential reward. >> >> Best of luck with your new program and if you make an Android version, >> please tell us about it. >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Oscar Hsieh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Since your reply has nothing to do with the email you are replying to .. >>> I >>> think it is fair to change the subject line. >>> >>> Anyway .. I dont like to get involved too much into IPhone vs Android >>> debate .. to me alot of them are just different perspective to the >>> markets >>> and competition is always good. >>> >>> Now regarding to your comments about Advertisement on IPhone, I thought >>> IAds is there to help developers to include ads and share revenues, so >>> what >>> are you saying >>> about apple not allowing advertisement on their apps? Besides, I still >>> see free IOS apps on my i-device having ads on them (some of them use ads >>> from adMob). Is there new policy change from Apple that I am not aware >>> of? >>> >>> I am asking because I am starting to work on an iphone app ... please >>> dont >>> turn this into another IPhone VS android fight. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Robert Casto >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Even my company has been hurt by the changes Apple has made. We make >>>> revenue through advertising and the changes have caused a lot of >>>> companies >>>> and developers to loose their revenue stream. We are not abandoning the >>>> iPhone, but we are evaluating things closely to see if we are going to >>>> make >>>> money there. The story on Android is very different and I see revenues >>>> growing there for almost everyone. Many people are going to use Android >>>> as >>>> their main Internet device, especially younger people. Apple got the >>>> ball >>>> rolling, but now they seem to be dismantling the very thing they have >>>> built. >>>> Stopping companies from being able to advertise robs them of a primary >>>> source of income. It is very difficult to have enough revenue on sales >>>> alone. Only so many people are willing to pay for software now-a-days so >>>> you >>>> need advertising to be able to support development, improvement, and >>>> maintenance. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Marcelo Fukushima >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes its legal as far as the android market is concerned - its in the >>>>> FAQ >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 3, 2010 5:15 AM, "Fabrizio Giudici" < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> > Hash: SHA1 >>>>> > >>>>> > I'm thinking of publishing my app to SlideME and a couple of further >>>>> > indipendent stores, in addition to the Android Market. Is it a legal >>>>> > thing? I suppose I could find myself the answer by reading all the >>>>> > legalese stuff at Android, but legalese is always full of obscurities >>>>> > and I prefer to have some trusted feedback here... 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