Not necessary. I believe that open source and proprietary languages/platforms/softwares will coexist for long time. Just look at MS .Net as an example. Besides, the android model is not perfect neither, I am sure many phone manufacturer choose android mainly because it is the only option out there to compete IPhone.
The UI builder for Android 1.5 was pretty bad if I remember correctly. It was easier to code UI in xml that tells you how bad it was ... at least for me. I also hate how Android generates class that maps to your UI component. Personally I think if there is a need to auto-generate code, at least hide it from me. Project Lombok is a great example of how code generation should be done. I am working on a entry level math educational software at my spare time, I am about 1/3 of where I want it to be. It might never see sun light but at minimum I hope it will help enrich my resume :) Thanks On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:16 AM, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote: > Well,that settles it. You cannot deny that more companies will do what > apple is doing. > I think things will become messy in future ,with top level > architecture & third party integration becoming a need of the hour. > > So what kind of programs are you writing oscar.Eclipse has a gui > plugin for this sort of work.Don't they? > > If possible,do share your idea with us.Maybe we could help. > > Regards, > jd > > On 7/4/10, Oscar Hsieh <[email protected]> wrote: > > Calm down Robert, I did not say I dont like your post. All I was saying > is > > to change subject line to reflect the topic. > > > > I agree that Apple's tight grip can be an issue for a company whose life > > relies on their products, but then the opportunity > > of that market cannot be ignored too. People often forget IOS is not > just > > about IPhone, but also millions of IPod Touch out there too. > > > > Anyway, I am coding on iphone platform mainly because its the first and > its > > much easier to build nice looking UI there. I tried android a while ago > > (1.5) > > and its really not fun to build UI on eclipse. I understand android is > 2.2 > > now so I might revisit it when I have time. > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Robert Casto <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> If you don't want to read the post, then don't. No one is forcing you. I > >> responded to someone else with an experience I'm going through. That > >> doesn't > >> mean it is going to be the same for everyone. It could be our ad > provider, > >> it could be our application category, or a number of other things. > >> > >> All I'm saying is that Apple is making it very hard for developers to > make > >> a business of their applications with all these rule changes. They want > to > >> do just iAds. Fine. But the way they did it I think was inconsiderate. > My > >> company is also on a number of other phone platforms so iPhone is not > the > >> only game. That is an advantage but now we are not allowed to merge our > >> development efforts. We have to use their tools, their ads, their > >> language, > >> there ??? It is very hard to create a business with that much > >> uncertainty. > >> How will you know you can make money? Is it worth your time or will they > >> make some unilateral decision that will put you immediately out of > >> business > >> as they already have to other companies. > >> > >> This is not a debate about technology. It is about the market and being > >> able to build a business around it. I don't see how you can know deal > with > >> that kind of uncertainty. The options are limited and they keep > tightening > >> the noose. At some point developers are going to give up because the > risk > >> is > >> too high for the potential reward. > >> > >> Best of luck with your new program and if you make an Android version, > >> please tell us about it. > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Oscar Hsieh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Since your reply has nothing to do with the email you are replying to > .. > >>> I > >>> think it is fair to change the subject line. > >>> > >>> Anyway .. I dont like to get involved too much into IPhone vs Android > >>> debate .. to me alot of them are just different perspective to the > >>> markets > >>> and competition is always good. > >>> > >>> Now regarding to your comments about Advertisement on IPhone, I thought > >>> IAds is there to help developers to include ads and share revenues, so > >>> what > >>> are you saying > >>> about apple not allowing advertisement on their apps? Besides, I still > >>> see free IOS apps on my i-device having ads on them (some of them use > ads > >>> from adMob). Is there new policy change from Apple that I am not aware > >>> of? > >>> > >>> I am asking because I am starting to work on an iphone app ... please > >>> dont > >>> turn this into another IPhone VS android fight. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Robert Casto > >>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> > >>>> Even my company has been hurt by the changes Apple has made. We make > >>>> revenue through advertising and the changes have caused a lot of > >>>> companies > >>>> and developers to loose their revenue stream. We are not abandoning > the > >>>> iPhone, but we are evaluating things closely to see if we are going to > >>>> make > >>>> money there. The story on Android is very different and I see revenues > >>>> growing there for almost everyone. Many people are going to use > Android > >>>> as > >>>> their main Internet device, especially younger people. Apple got the > >>>> ball > >>>> rolling, but now they seem to be dismantling the very thing they have > >>>> built. > >>>> Stopping companies from being able to advertise robs them of a primary > >>>> source of income. It is very difficult to have enough revenue on sales > >>>> alone. Only so many people are willing to pay for software now-a-days > so > >>>> you > >>>> need advertising to be able to support development, improvement, and > >>>> maintenance. > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Marcelo Fukushima > >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yes its legal as far as the android market is concerned - its in the > >>>>> FAQ > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jul 3, 2010 5:15 AM, "Fabrizio Giudici" < > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>>> > Hash: SHA1 > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I'm thinking of publishing my app to SlideME and a couple of > further > >>>>> > indipendent stores, in addition to the Android Market. Is it a > legal > >>>>> > thing? I suppose I could find myself the answer by reading all the > >>>>> > legalese stuff at Android, but legalese is always full of > obscurities > >>>>> > and I prefer to have some trusted feedback here... Thanks. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > - -- > >>>>> > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > >>>>> > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. 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