How is that an oxymoron? Stab seems to be following the same path as Fantom: A (faulty) conclusion that java's lack of certain "simple" features (mistake #1: Adding those features while remaining compatible with java code that's already out there is not simple, even if you think it is) can be easily fixed by writing a very similar language (correct - writing a parser + compiler is simple), and then a flurry of rushed activity results in getting such a compiler out the door, along with a bunch of fanfare music as some features are trotted out and it all looks bloody marvelous.
And that's where it stops, so far. No tool support. Gaping holes in elegance (not that I'd claim java is particularly elegant either, but folks won't switch languages for a small incremental increase that brings them from a meh solution to a very slightly less meh solution. If you want to convince folks to upgrade, it's got to be a massive leap. I don't think scala is leaping towards the right place, but it is, at least, a massive leap, and those who DO think scala is leaping in the right direction are switching in droves!) So, first a rush to a compiler, and then stagnation as the realization sets in this isn't what people want. Perhaps I should put it differently: Other than for folks who are intricately familiar with C#'s syntax, why would I get any more excited about stab than I would about Fantom? What does stab do that's leaps better than Fantom? On Jul 27, 9:03 am, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote: > > Get all that going and I'll take it seriously. Phantom came with very > > similar promises and that's going exactly nowhere. > > How is Fantom going exactly nowhere? Scala, with it's few years of > advantage, may now have succeeded in reaching that magical critical > mass - but will always remain an elitists language. And of all 3 > languages in your entry (Scala, Stab and Fantom), the latter probably > has the nicest interoperability story [http://fantom.org/doc/docLang/ > JavaFFI.html]. > > So I don't really think it's fair to compare Fantom to Stab, and in > the same sentence fault Stab for being rushed and fault Fantom for > going nowhere - that's an oxymoron. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
