OK, if you guys are going to go there (relative popularities of Swing,
SWT, and JavaFX), then here's a thought experiment. Start with the
fact that there are already 80,000 Android apps in the market.

1. Are there more Android apps in the wild than apps built with Swing,
SWT, JavaFX, or Java ME?
2. Are there more Android apps in the wild than apps built with Swing,
SWT, JavaFX, *and* Java ME, combined?
3. Does the number of Android apps in the wild outnumber apps built
with Swing, SWT, JavaFX, *and* Java ME, combined, by more than one
order of magnitude?

Your mileage may vary. I suspect 1 and 2 are true, and 3 very well may
be.

Joe said something about this a few episodes back that motivated me to
blog a riff on this thought. He basically asserted that Android has
"won", and I don't think anyone disputes that it is already bigger,
and growing faster, than Java ME or JavaFX Mobile (if that's even its
own thing anymore). But he also plays off the idea that the tablet is
the "desktop of the future". If we assume that most tablets not called
"iPad" are going to be running Android, then Android will be filling
some of the roles currently served by Swing, SWT, JavaFX, and their
native equivalents.

Which leads to the question, does any Java UI framework other than
Android matter anymore?

-Chris

On Sep 20, 5:12 pm, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Fabrizio Giudici <
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > In any case, the large increase of adoption of the NetBeans Platform in the
> > industry is related to the fact that many don't like SWT (and hence the
> > Eclipse Platform).
>
> At the risk of being snarky, I'll go ahead and say that just like JavaFX,
> the only times I ever hear about NetBeans is during JavaOne or from Sun
> employees...

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