Sigh. Yes, it's 2010, and we're *still* having pointless SWT vs Swing debates.
Well, not really debates. Just the same old warhorses reiterating their entrenched arguments. * SWT exists and people are using it. Deal with it. * Swing exists and people are using it. Deal with it. * JavaFX exists and... um... may be something we have to deal with in the future. Neil On Sep 21, 1:45 am, Augusto Sellhorn <[email protected]> wrote: > The whole "look like native apps" was a big waste of time, as the > trend has been for quite a while to create custom UIs. Nobody cares > that their Flex apps don't look like native apps, or that Google Apps > on your desktop look quite different from anything else you have. Sun > chasing perfect platform fidelity was a waste of time. > > The irony to me is that Eclipse looks less like a native app to me > than something like Netbeans. It's also a step back in UI programming, > I mean, really the last time I had to deallocate color resources was > when I was doing Xt programming for X. We're in 2010 now. > > Augusto > > On Sep 20, 4:49 pm, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jess Holle <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Well if they give JavaFX a *really* nice Java API so one can use it from > > > Java as easily as Swing, then there's nothing more compelling about SWT > > > due > > > to this announcement. > > > > SWT has no point over Swing at this point (vs. when it was originally > > > created) unless you or your users are *really *hung up on widgets or fonts > > > tracking the native platforms *perfectly*. Some of us really and truly > > > could care less. > > > You probably mean "could not care less", otherwise you're agreeing with me > > :-) > > > A lot of people care about applications looking like the host OS they are > > running in, and SWT/JFace/EclipseRCP is way ahead of Swing in that area. > > > > Just give us a decent UI that runs on any desktop OS without any extra > > > native libraries, etc (which kills the notion of SWT immediately) > > > How so? Swing uses native libraries as well (well, AWT does). They are just > > implementing the UI at a different level than SWT. > > > The whole "native libraries are evil" thing died more than ten years ago. > > > and a reasonable API (which Swing has in my book). The rest of the Eclipse > > > > RCP might be nice -- but it's "contaminated" by SWT for those who want no > > > part of SWT. > > > Sounds like a pretty arbitrary and emotional position, but whatever works > > for you. > > > -- > > Cédric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
