On Oct 21, 3:06 am, Chris Adamson <[email protected]> wrote:
> A few historical notes:
>
> * This sort of reverts to the state the Mac was in around '97 or '98,
> when there were many competing VMs for the Mac (developer-oriented VMs
> from Metrowerks and Roaster, user-oriented VMs from Microsoft and
> Netscape, etc.).  At the time, Apple licensed Java from Sun and said
> it would be better for users to have a single, system-standard JVM.
> Obviously, times have changed.

Don't forget that in 97/98, the dot-com reality distortion field was
in full swing. Your sole goal as a company consisted of spending as
much money as possible acquiring market share, and figuring out how to
make money came "later."

I don't see that same dynamic helping in the current situation. At
least Apple could make some money off their JVM investment by selling
hardware to Java developers. What is a 3rd party's financial incentive
for providing a Mac JVM, when end-users  are conditioned to think that
downloading these types of "add ons" (Flash/Java, etc) are Free as in
beer.


>
> * At least once, I've wondered aloud about whether Java on the Mac is
> more important to Apple or Sun (now Oracle, of course).  Would a lack
> of Java hurt Mac sales, or hurt Java's cross-platform legitimacy?
> Maybe now we're going to find out.

Indeed. I suspect Apple will lose a little money on hardware sales
that would have previously gone to Java developers. But then again,
they're making so much money right now they probably won't even
notice.

Rob

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