On Oct 21, 7:11 am, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > The way I see it going: > > Apple want consumers > consumers want applications > applications are written by developers > but the developers have run off, fed up with the way Apple is treating them
Really? Jobs said yesterday that the Mac Dev Program has 600,000 registered developers, growing at 30,000 a month. That doesn't sound like running off to me (although it does pale in comparison to the 6.5 million Java developer figure that Oracle claims: http://www.java.com/en/about/ ). Sun's treatment of Desktop Java developers might be a better example: Sun basically abandoned the desktop after shipping Swing 1.0, then came back in 2007 and said "screw all you Swing developers, we're starting over with UI and you have to learn a new language, JavaFX Script", and then this year said "hey, everyone who adopted JavaFX Script… screw you too." Most of the prominent Desktop Java developers I know actually have abandoned the platform (Hans, Josh, me), or gone over to Android (Chet, Romain, Tor), leaving just a few hangers-on in Swingland (Kirill and Kleopatra). Fabrizio mentioned that some people are foolishly blaming Oracle for Apple's move. He's right, that's total crap. What I would blame is what Sun did with Desktop Java over the last decade: that's a big part of why there are virtually no desktop Java apps of any consequence, and why it would be in Apple's self-interest to get out of the Java business. All the Desktop Java developers in the world could explicitly stop supporting Mac - hell, they could check the os.type for "mac" and do a System.exit(-1) - and almost nobody would notice. [OK, I've posted too much on this already and I should shut up and let other people have a turn! Just a topic near and dear to me, obviously.] --Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
