Well, Scala itself can be fairly-easily retrofitted to compile against a
different back-end (hey, it can already target .NET!) and there's a project
already on GitHub allowing LLVM to be targeted.  I wouldn't be at all
surprised to see other languages taking a similar approach.

There's also a good chance of more effort going into projects like VMKit - a
JVM implemented over LLVM.  It'll be interesting to see what happens with
regards to user interfaces in this regard (I guess swing will be out), I can
imagine any number of fascinating possibilities based on LLVM code running
directly on a GPU.


On 21 October 2010 14:20, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Oct 21, 2:14 pm, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yet it was Apple themselves who deprecated the Java-Cocoa bindings.  That
> > was a sad day...
>
> Yeah they certainly seem to have a "remove the band-aid slowly and
> perhaps nobody will notice" strategy.
>
> Our own posse chief, Dick Wall, has gone all-in with Scala. It's thus
> not that hard to imagine a future where the runtime is irrelevant and
> we will just use whichever fits the best, and bundle it along with
> required libraries. Unfortunately for JSE, it failed to renew itself
> and remain attractive... Apple's issue is not really with Java [the
> language], but with the platform (runtime and particular the UI
> libraries).
>
> My prediction for the future is that desktop Java will continue to
> fade away much like applets have done [shameless plug, I investigated
> that issue a few years ago: http://goo.gl/wZ6V]. Apple not only
> recognizes this, they choose to take an active part (as they have with
> Flash). So either Oracle pours a ginourmous amount of cash into it, or
> the community shows remarkable synergy and determination. Or... we
> just move on.
>
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