Not to derail the thread, but I've been using Windows and Cygwin for I don't 
know how long now and am quite happy.  I can honestly say that Cygwin has come 
a 
long way.  I'm no Lynix or UNIX sysadmin.  I just want my normal POSIX tools 
and 
I get them for free on cheap hardware and full driver compatibility.  No 
support 
for Mac Java from Apple? -- no problem.  Just sayin'...

 Alexey
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From: Phil <[email protected]>
To: The Java Posse <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 5:18:25 PM
Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Apple has just deprecated Java on the Mac!!!

I suppose that's the fallback option - I use VMWare, so I could just
run Linux in unity mode and still have access to an up-to-date version
of Java and the tools that go with it. Given that Eclipse Helios on
Mac STILL has issues with CTRL-Space not working about half the time
this might even prove to be a bonus!

On Oct 21, 10:07 am, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
> I love the Apple hardware and their GUI, but the (lack of) Java support is
> really starting to wind me up.
>
> I'm wondering if Oracle couldn't side-step the the whole issue, not bother
> with releasing an OSX JVM, and push resources into improving the OSX feature
> set + performance for VirtualBox instead.
>
> Perhaps I should be buying shares in Parallels Holdings Ltd. about now.
>
> On 21 October 2010 10:00, Fabrizio Giudici 
><[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 10/21/10 10:44 , Kevin Wright wrote:
>
> >> If nothing else, this might push efforts to improve Linux drivers for the
> >> trackpad, magic mouse, etc.
>
> >> Personally, I think I'll be abandoning Macbooks now, just can decide what
> >> to use as a replacement
> >> The HP Envy's seem to have the screen quality and sold-metal body that
> >> I've grown to love, but I've read about problems installing Ubuntu on then.
>
> >> What's a developer to do?
>
> >>  For sure there are valid alternatives for hardware, and possibly cheaper.
> > I'm not thinking of me as a developer; after all I feel much more efficient
> > with Linux that Mac OS X. I'm trying to understand what's the future of
> > deploying Java applications to Mac OS X. Curiously, if I switch to a primary
> > Linux environment (which doesnt' cost anything to me, in addition to virtual
> > boxes I already have also native partitions), I'll lose ZFS (OpenSolaris
> > went away, and currently the only option is the open ZFS port to Mac OS X).
>
> > --
> > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager
> > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere."
> > java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici-www.tidalwave.it/people
> > [email protected]
>
> --
> Kevin Wright
>
> mail / gtalk / msn : [email protected]
> pulse / skype: kev.lee.wright
> twitter: @thecoda

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