I think that kind of legal "test" would be considered a frivolous suit.

 Alexey


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From: Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 7:24:00 AM
Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Oracle vs Myriad

On 12/17/2010 12:19 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> 
> Ah, I see. Groklaw is a bunch of different authors and are known for 
> occasional 
>bouts of hyperbole. Nevertheless, an interesting twist, to be sure.
> 
> 
> My guess is that this case is so crazy, even groklaw can't make much sense of 
>the ulterior agendas of all involved parties.
> 
> 

There's a thing that I hoped it would come out of this mess, but I'm 
pessimistic. This story demonstrated, in case we weren't already convinced of 
it, that we mere mortals can't just guess the patent mess. Tons of 
contradictory 
things have been said about the GPLv2 and patents, and clearly even lawyers 
don't get to a shared opinion. Initially I hoped that the turn out of the 
lawsuit would shed some light, creating a sound precedence. Now I fear that one 
day we'll just read "Oracle and Google are happy to announce that...", then 
*some* details of the deal, but we won't be able to guess whether each single 
weapon was fatal or not.

Frankly, it's this climate of uncertainty, rather than the direct threat of 
patents, that has high chances of killing, or more probably give severe wounds, 
to the open source model (or at least, parts of it). In my naive engineer mind, 
I was thinking whether some entities in our world, who have the means for doing 
that, couldn't try to set up a sort of "driven lawsuit" to get to the final 
consequences. E.g. you and me grab some patents (something really small and 
with 
a low price, that we can afford) involved in some way with a FLOSS license and 
then we sue each other claiming $1 of damage. Of course, we don't want to hurt 
each other, but just probe how lethal the patents we own are and how can really 
affect our FLOSS licenses. Then bring the lawsuit until a judge deliberates and 
creates a precedent. Of course, the entities doing this would need to spend a 
lot of money, mainly for the lawyers. I wonder whether some open source 
foundation couldn't do that. Surely, there's something practical that prevents 
this from happening or getting to a meaningful end.

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