ADF predates JSF, though both are equally ivory-tower designed. Again, no doubt Oracle thus cares more about JDev.
On Jan 28, 12:08 am, Karsten Silz <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jan 27, 9:46 pm, "Vince O'Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What, exactly, does justify the allocation of > > resources? How, for instance, is the allocation of NetBeans resources > > to Java justified? What are the criteria that failed to be met by > > Ruby? > > Oracle has three IDEs: > > JDeveloper is their "enterprise IDE" with the ADF, a JSF-based > framework that I think Oracle uses internally to re-built all its > enterprise software on top of its app server. I think it's heavily > used by Oracle-Java shops. At least ADF is strategic, so you hold on > to it. > > Then they have the Oracle Enterprise Pack, a bunch of Eclipse plug- > ins, from an earlier acquisition. They need this since many (most?) > developers use Eclipse, and Oracle wants its app server and databases > well-integrated there. But they don't call the shots, and Eclipse is > at odds with "pure Java" (SWT, OSGI etc.). > > And then there's Netbeans as the "pure Java IDE" where Oracle calls > the shots. This is the way they can push tool support for new Java > versions out, and it's more widely used than JDeveloper in the non- > Oracle Java crowd. > > I can't see how Oracle can solve that problem in the short-term - > Oracle obviously neither, so they keep all three though it's one too > many. > > But at the very least they can stop supporting "non-standard > frameworks" that directly compete with JEE / ADF and are outside of > Oracle's control (Ruby on Rails, for instance). Wouldn't be surprised > if Grails supports gets dropped, too - that's from the Spring guys > which JEE's main competitor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
