They also get all the TV and movie spots. I had one when working with a startup but most big companies are trying to drive the cost down and there is no competition with Macs. They can usually get a deal from HP, DELL, Lenovo, or some other manufacturer.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:21 AM, phil swenson <[email protected]>wrote: > This seems right. Looks like Macs have about 20% of the US consumer share: > > http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/10/20/study-mac-claims-20-percent-us-consumer-market-share/ > > > <http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/10/20/study-mac-claims-20-percent-us-consumer-market-share/>But > the corporate share is much lower (don't have a # for this). > > Here is some market share info: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems > > Apple OWNS the high end: > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems> > http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-market-for-1000-PCs-says-NPD/1248313624 > > Macs big for college students: > > <http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-has-91-of-market-for-1000-PCs-says-NPD/1248313624> > http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/08/07/big-macs-on-campus/ > > Anecdotally, it seems mac laptops have about 50% of the market share for > people who hang out in coffee shops :) > > Anecdotally, I see big usage for startups but rarely see in big corps. > > > 2011/3/16 Kevin Wright <[email protected]> > >> >> >> 2011/3/16 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>> 6% of a gigantic number is still a gigantic number. Why are there 0 >>>> worms? Also, where is your 6% number from? >>>> >>> >>> I stand corrected, it seems to be more around 10-11% thanks to the iPad >>> sales<http://www.winsupersite.com/blogs/tabid/3256/entryid/76068/Mac-Market-Share-4-42-in-Q4-2010-4-13-for-CY-2010.aspx>. >>> Still not enough to attract hackers' attention, IMO. >>> >>> >>> >>>> No I did not. Neither you nor I nor anyone else here has come up with >>>>> any reasonable argument or link to research to show that mac users are >>>>> more >>>>> or less security conscious than anyone else. However, Steve Jobs is >>>>> certainly attempting to sell that idea that as a mac user you don't have >>>>> to >>>>> be security conscious, which is an interesting but otherwise irrelevant >>>>> sidenote to this discussion. Why do you say that mac users are "usually >>>>> more >>>>> security savvy"? >>>>> >>>> >>> Fine, let's ignore this, it doesn't change anything to my overall point. >>> 100% of 10% is still a tiny fraction of what you can get out of a Windows >>> virus. >>> >>> >>> >>>> One easy way to get your group's name in newspapers of note is to cause >>>> a minor storm in a teacup by releasing the first mac 'virus' (that's what >>>> the media is likely going to call it, anyways). >>>> >>> >>> Doubtful since the first Mac virus seems to have been identified in >>> 2006<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12537279/ns/technology_and_science-security/> >>> . >>> >>> And it made such big headlines that you don't even seem to have noticed >>> back then (neither did I, I had to look it up). >>> >>> Someone coming up with another Mac OS virus will probably be hardly worth >>> a 140 character mention on Twitter. And by the way, the latest to date is >>> from >>> yesterday<http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa11-01.html>(Adobe, >>> of course). >>> >>> >>> For proof, I could just point at the _ridiculous_ amount of brainspace >>>> dedicated by the blogosphere by anything apple has ever done in the past 2 >>>> years, including the java posse which continues to pad the podcast by at >>>> least 10 minutes of discussion if Steve Jobs's turtleneck is 5 millimeters >>>> out of balance. >>>> >>> >>> I certainly agree with that, I facepalmed in real life last time the >>> 'Posse spent a few minutes discussing the announcement of the announcement >>> of the iPad 2. >>> >>> -- >>> Cédric >>> >>> >> >> The important question here isn't "what proportion of machines run OS-X", >> it's "If I manage to infect one machine, what others will it be connected to >> for purposes of spreading" >> >> Windows tends to be used heavily in big corps, so if you get one infection >> then you're sorted - surrounded by a big juicy monoculture of machines, all >> likely to be running with the same a/v software and patches. >> >> Outside of some small companies (most notably those in media/design), most >> Apple systems seem to be privately purchased, or bought for individuals >> higher up in the corporate hierarchy, so they'll be loosely scattered and >> much less likely to find a viable infection vector. >> >> These things spread exponentially, so if OS-X only represents 10% of the >> ecosystem then it'll suffer 10x fewer infections in the first generation, >> 100x in the second, and 1000x in the third. At the end of the day, OS-X >> exploits have been written, but the conditions just weren't right for them >> to take hold. >> >> That's why we don't see so many Apple infections. Maybe the system *is* >> inherently more secure, but that's not the important factor. Any study of >> epidemiology will focus on overall systems, not just individuals. >> Interestingly, it's also why attacks on routers seem to be effective - not >> because any given model has a dominant market penetration, but because >> they're all highly connected. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "The Java Posse" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kevin Wright >> >> gtalk / msn : [email protected] >> <[email protected]>mail: [email protected] >> vibe / skype: kev.lee.wright >> quora: http://www.quora.com/Kevin-Wright >> twitter: @thecoda >> >> "My point today is that, if we wish to count lines of code, we should not >> regard them as "lines produced" but as "lines spent": the current >> conventional wisdom is so foolish as to book that count on the wrong side of >> the ledger" ~ Dijkstra >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- Robert Casto www.robertcasto.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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