You might want to keep an eye on what happens in the Groovy community
in regard to JavaFX then.

On Jun 2, 3:41 am, Serge Boulay <[email protected]> wrote:
> Overall I like the new direction of JavaFx 2.0. I am not particularly fond
> of the way
> they did properties (DoubleProperty, LongProperty etc) it seems little
> verbose
> for my likings. I would rather see properties implemented at the language
> level.
>
> I am both excited and curious for the forthcoming FXML - the declarative
> way to layout user interface components (not in the beta).
>
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> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On May 31, 5:39 am, Jonathan Giles <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > As Steven Herod linked to, here's Richard Bairs (Java Client
> > > Architect) response (see the last comment):
>
> > > Cay, I have to agree! Which is why we have not developed a windows
> > > version in isolation of everything else — or even first!. I develop
> > > only on a Mac, and have done so for the past 3 years. As many
> > > developers here work on Mac as work on Windows, and a number are on
> > > Linux. Gerard Ziemski, who designed the initial version of Glass (our
> > > windowing layer replacing AWT) works only on a Mac and writes and
> > > maintains the Cocoa code. The first platform Glass came up on was a
> > > Mac, and was subsequently ported on Windows (and differences between
> > > Mac and Windows were at that time worked through). The guys working on
> > > the windows version are also the AWT maintainers who for years have
> > > wanted another go at it to fix the problems of AWT. We’re really very
> > > well versed in these problems :-) .
>
> > > As for media, it sounds like there is some documentation which needs
> > > addressing. We are using gstreamer for the media framework, which as
> > > I’m sure you are aware is really quite widely adopted and works well
> > > on multiple platforms.
>
> > > Now, I’m not prepared to make a statement on timetables or on why the
> > > windows 32-bit is the only one released at this first beta. But do
> > > bear in mind, we’re releasing a new beta build every 2 weeks. This
> > > isn’t a release candidate! It is a snapshot in time which represents a
> > > certain level of development and a certain level of testing.
>
> > > -- Jonathan
>
> > > On May 31, 1:36 pm, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Steven Herod <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > > This may also help out on the cross platform question:
> > > > >http://fxexperience.com/2011/05/is-javafx-2-0-cross-platform/
>
> > > > Yes, in the sense that the answer is "Not at the moment and we can't
> > tell
> > > > you when".
>
> > > > Obviously, we can't know if Oracle is being truthful when they say that
> > > > JavaFX will be cross platform at some undetermined time in the future,
> > but
> > > > we can definitely draw some conclusions from the fact that they chose
> > to
> > > > release a Windows-only version first: this is the clear sign that the
> > > > development process of JavaFX is not multi platform.
>
> > > > Which should be a concern to everyone with an interest in that field
> > and
> > > > quite reminiscent of the disaster that happened with AWT fifteen years
> > ago.
>
> > > > Myself, I just can't understand why there's still even a tiny amount of
> > > > people who are interested in JavaFX after Sun proved for fifteen years
> > that
> > > > they just weren't very good at this UI framework stuff.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Cédric
>
> > I am not sure what to think. All I know is that for all that I could
> > see bugs and issues with JavaFX, I liked it. If that is wrong of me to
> > feel that way or doesn't fit in with HTML5 being the one true way then
> > so be it. I know plugging technology is under attack particularly from
> > Apple.
>
> > I have lost some enthusiasm due to the bumpy ride the technology as
> > had lots of attacks even from Java loyalist people. I am not sure if
> > it is going to take off but I like it anyway.
>
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