To be fair, the guys who were working on the language are now working on ARM and other Java 7 things. You see, that was under resources also so Oracle's shuffled people about to get things going.
Kirk On Jun 2, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Ricky Clarkson wrote: > To be fair, people who worked on the JavaFX compiler probably wouldn't > be the same people who now work on the APIs. It's more likely that > those people are working on the new language features for Java 7, or > on other language projects like Fortress (is that one still going?). > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Kirk <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yup, it still is only a small team and the dropping of JavaFX script was a >> good thing IMHO. It was a poke at flash/silver light, was way behind the >> curve, and took resources away from the core which (like it or not) Java >> works reasonably well enough and everyone knows it.... so... no brainer to >> kill that part and refocus err focus. >> >> Kirk >> >> On Jun 2, 2011, at 2:21 AM, Steven Herod wrote: >> >>> Well, the Oracle buy out put the whole thing in the air for a year and >>> then there was the dropping of JavaFXScript, which was probably >>> another year. >>> >>> But 2.0 is a 2.0 product, even the EA builds worked pretty well and >>> were more functional than JavaFX 1.0 - 1.3. >>> >>> Its still only a small team to my understanding. >>> >>> On Jun 1, 7:07 pm, Moandji Ezana <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On the Java Spotlight Podcast >>>> #32<http://blogs.oracle.com/javaspotlight/entry/java_spotlight_episode_32...> >>>> , Nandini Ramani, the "Vice President of Development at Oracle in the >>>> Fusion >>>> Middleware Group" in charge of Java FX has a slightly different take. >>>> >>>> She says (around 16:30) that coming out on Windows first was a "very >>>> concious decision because time to market was so critical for us and testing >>>> on all different platforms takes a lot of effort... It will be followed by >>>> a >>>> Mac OS port". I found the time to market aspect amusing for a 3 or 4 year >>>> old product that has never really gone anywhere. >>>> >>>> Moandji >>>> >>>> --www.moandjiezana.com >>>> >>>> Sent from my phone >>>> On 31 May 2011 06:39, "Jonathan Giles" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> As Steven Herod linked to, here's Richard Bairs (Java Client >>>>> Architect) response (see the last comment): >>>> >>>>> Cay, I have to agree! Which is why we have not developed a windows >>>>> version in isolation of everything else — or even first!. I develop >>>>> only on a Mac, and have done so for the past 3 years. As many >>>>> developers here work on Mac as work on Windows, and a number are on >>>>> Linux. Gerard Ziemski, who designed the initial version of Glass (our >>>>> windowing layer replacing AWT) works only on a Mac and writes and >>>>> maintains the Cocoa code. The first platform Glass came up on was a >>>>> Mac, and was subsequently ported on Windows (and differences between >>>>> Mac and Windows were at that time worked through). The guys working on >>>>> the windows version are also the AWT maintainers who for years have >>>>> wanted another go at it to fix the problems of AWT. We’re really very >>>>> well versed in these problems :-) . >>>> >>>>> As for media, it sounds like there is some documentation which needs >>>>> addressing. We are using gstreamer for the media framework, which as >>>>> I’m sure you are aware is really quite widely adopted and works well >>>>> on multiple platforms. >>>> >>>>> Now, I’m not prepared to make a statement on timetables or on why the >>>>> windows 32-bit is the only one released at this first beta. But do >>>>> bear in mind, we’re releasing a new beta build every 2 weeks. This >>>>> isn’t a release candidate! It is a snapshot in time which represents a >>>>> certain level of development and a certain level of testing. >>>> >>>>> -- Jonathan >>>> >>>>> On May 31, 1:36 pm, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Steven Herod <[email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> This may also help out on the cross platform question: >>>>>>> http://fxexperience.com/2011/05/is-javafx-2-0-cross-platform/ >>>> >>>>>> Yes, in the sense that the answer is "Not at the moment and we can't tell >>>>>> you when". >>>> >>>>>> Obviously, we can't know if Oracle is being truthful when they say that >>>>>> JavaFX will be cross platform at some undetermined time in the future, >>>> but >>>>>> we can definitely draw some conclusions from the fact that they chose to >>>>>> release a Windows-only version first: this is the clear sign that the >>>>>> development process of JavaFX is not multi platform. >>>> >>>>>> Which should be a concern to everyone with an interest in that field and >>>>>> quite reminiscent of the disaster that happened with AWT fifteen years >>>> ago. >>>> >>>>>> Myself, I just can't understand why there's still even a tiny amount of >>>>>> people who are interested in JavaFX after Sun proved for fifteen years >>>> that >>>>>> they just weren't very good at this UI framework stuff. >>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cédric >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> >>>> "The Java Posse" group.> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> >>>> [email protected].> For more options, visit this >>>> group at >>>> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "The Java Posse" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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