about learning from each other. maybe my curse is that I had some great interviews also when I felt that I have learnt something. plus you said it yourself that you must like that person. if the interviewer can't say anything technically interesting in the interview how can I be sure he knows what he's doing? he should know a lot more than me or at least as much as me.
On 16 Lis, 18:47, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:09 AM, koczyslaw bydlak <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I disagree about lunch interview. for me that is forcing person into a > > situation that might be uncomfortable for him. at my current work > > place half of the people makes food themself (its cheaper and > > healthier). plus as interviewee you don't have a choice. if someone > > ask you is "could we do lunch interview?" - can you really say "no"? > > you can, but it might cost you the job and you might not get that job, > > because you're "not a team player". > > > plus being stressed when you are eating is not healthy. I bet it must > > be uncomfortable for everybody - its like doing anything first time. > > everybody is used to normal interview process and that is hard enough. > > we CANNOT prepare for a interview. I was once asked how MsSQL database/ > > index files are stored (or something like that). not knowing what you > > will be asked is stressful. > > > P.S. maybe I'm a little sensitive about job interview, but I just had > > one too many. most of them are with morons as interviewers (my > > impression). I can only remember few good ones (where I and > > interviewer learn something from each other). > > This might be part of the problem. An interview is *not* for interviewer > and candidate to learn from each other. If you go in with this expectation, > you will be disappointed. The people who interview are not here to teach > you anything, they are trying to recruit the next member of the team they > spend forty hours a week working with. It's a big deal and they need to > make sure they are not hiring the wrong person, because such a mistake will > have an impact on both their professional and personal lives (working with > people you don't like or don't respect will have a negative impact on your > mood when you come home at night). > > That's their only goal. > > Your only goal should be to impress them. That's it. Not trying to learn > from them, not trying to teach them anything, just answer their questions > the best you can. > > As for the lunch thing, as Robert pointed out, interviewing someone is not > just about testing their technical abilities but assessing their social fit > as well. I would never hire a superstar programmer if I can't enjoy > chatting over coffee or lunch with them. The topic doesn't really matter, > it might be 100% code or the latest episode of "Dancing with the stars" for > all I care, but we both need to be comfortable and feel that the > conversation is flowing naturally. > > Whether you realize it or not, you *are* being interviewed socially every > time you are asked questions, and the setting can be either during the > technical session on the board (if there is no lunch in the schedule) or in > a more relaxed environment such as around a lunch table. > > There might be a cultural disconnect here and I can't say I'm familiar with > the way this is done in Warszawa, but if you end up interviewing with > American or American-flavored companies, you should really try to learn to > relax and give a good performance while having lunch with potential future > coworkers. > > -- > Cédric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
