but can you really interview for that? I know a lot of people that are great and amazing, but can also be ..... not so great when they are pissed off/annoyed or disagree about something. I know one guy that just won't speak to you if he's pissed off at you. it can take days for him to come down.
plus you cannot expect person to be the same at work as he's on a interview. I'm not, I even shave for interviews! On 17 Lis, 18:42, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: > People forget that they will probably spend as much, or even more, time > with the "team" than they will with their spouse. It is very important that > there is a good fit because otherwise, everyone will feel tense or > irritated and that can make the work experience less than ideal. > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Matthew Farwell > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you say Cedric. > > > When you interview someone, you need to know if they would be able to do > > the job *and* if they would fit in with the current team. > > > And this *goes both ways*. Me, as interviewer, I'm seeing if the > > interviewee will fit in with the team and could do the job. You, the > > interviewee are seeing if you want to do the job and if you want to work > > with these people. > > > Now, when I do an interview, I want to meet the team. And why not? I'm > > going to live quite a lot of my life with them. > > > Previously, when I was the interviewee, my focus was on 'passing the > > interview'. Now, it's still the same, but now *they* are being interviewed > > at the same time. They have to pass the interview as well. > > > So I am pleased to eat lunch with the team. I *want* to meet them and talk > > to them. > > > Matthew Farwell. > > > Le 16 novembre 2011 18:47, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > This might be part of the problem. An interview is *not* for interviewer > >> and candidate to learn from each other. If you go in with this expectation, > >> you will be disappointed. The people who interview are not here to teach > >> you anything, they are trying to recruit the next member of the team they > >> spend forty hours a week working with. It's a big deal and they need to > >> make sure they are not hiring the wrong person, because such a mistake will > >> have an impact on both their professional and personal lives (working with > >> people you don't like or don't respect will have a negative impact on your > >> mood when you come home at night). > > >> That's their only goal. > > >> Your only goal should be to impress them. That's it. Not trying to learn > >> from them, not trying to teach them anything, just answer their questions > >> the best you can. > > >> As for the lunch thing, as Robert pointed out, interviewing someone is > >> not just about testing their technical abilities but assessing their social > >> fit as well. I would never hire a superstar programmer if I can't enjoy > >> chatting over coffee or lunch with them. The topic doesn't really matter, > >> it might be 100% code or the latest episode of "Dancing with the stars" for > >> all I care, but we both need to be comfortable and feel that the > >> conversation is flowing naturally. > > >> Whether you realize it or not, you *are* being interviewed socially every > >> time you are asked questions, and the setting can be either during the > >> technical session on the board (if there is no lunch in the schedule) or in > >> a more relaxed environment such as around a lunch table. > > >> There might be a cultural disconnect here and I can't say I'm familiar > >> with the way this is done in Warszawa, but if you end up interviewing with > >> American or American-flavored companies, you should really try to learn to > >> relax and give a good performance while having lunch with potential future > >> coworkers. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- > Robert Castowww.robertcasto.comwww.sellerstoolbox.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
