Alex, I'll acknowledge that Grails is slow, but can you elaborate
about what makes it messy? Would your complex system with dozens of
model classes be more organized in a different framework? I'm not
arguing, I'm just curious.

On Feb 11, 9:32 pm, Alex Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have to say, I got a bit disillusioned with Grails.  It's kind of messy, 
> and pretty slow.  I like what it can do, and the syntax is an upgrade from 
> plain Java, but it's just not that great once you end up with a more complex 
> system than a couple of dozen model classes.
>
> I've heard good things about Play with Scala, I think I'm gonna check that 
> out next.
>
> Alex
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Rakesh wrote:
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> > definitely consider Grails. Its the next step up without it being
> > completely different. The Groovy language is very nice but not too
> > intimidating, with the proviso you can drop into plain Java if you
> > need to.
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> > The Grails framework essentially gives you a
> > convention-over-configuration application framework (based on
> > Spring/Hibernate) excellent for creating corporate CRUD apps quickly.
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> > R
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> > On 10 February 2012 11:56, Vince O'Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> In our dept., we're putting together JSF 2.0 applications to run on
> >> the company intranet.  They're written in Java 1.6 and hosted on a
> >> Tomcat 6 web server on a linux box and they access data in Oracle
> >> databases.  They work fine and are proving reliable but JSF and
> >> managing beans does seem to be something of a dark art.
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> >> The database is a given and I'd be reluctant to change either the base
> >> language or web server that we use (but might be persuaded).
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> >> Given those restrictions, what are the most mainstream alternatives
> >> that we might consider?
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