I have to say, I got a bit disillusioned with Grails.  It's kind of messy, and 
pretty slow.  I like what it can do, and the syntax is an upgrade from plain 
Java, but it's just not that great once you end up with a more complex system 
than a couple of dozen model classes.

I've heard good things about Play with Scala, I think I'm gonna check that out 
next.

Alex

On Feb 10, 2012, at 5:22 AM, Rakesh wrote:

> definitely consider Grails. Its the next step up without it being
> completely different. The Groovy language is very nice but not too
> intimidating, with the proviso you can drop into plain Java if you
> need to.
> 
> The Grails framework essentially gives you a
> convention-over-configuration application framework (based on
> Spring/Hibernate) excellent for creating corporate CRUD apps quickly.
> 
> R
> 
> On 10 February 2012 11:56, Vince O'Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In our dept., we're putting together JSF 2.0 applications to run on
>> the company intranet.  They're written in Java 1.6 and hosted on a
>> Tomcat 6 web server on a linux box and they access data in Oracle
>> databases.  They work fine and are proving reliable but JSF and
>> managing beans does seem to be something of a dark art.
>> 
>> The database is a given and I'd be reluctant to change either the base
>> language or web server that we use (but might be persuaded).
>> 
>> Given those restrictions, what are the most mainstream alternatives
>> that we might consider?
>> 
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