Xerox didn't lose, their lawsuit was dismissed.
 On Sep 7, 2012 8:00 AM, "phil swenson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> dammit! wish i could retract my snark.  It's in your quote.  sorry
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:00 AM, phil swenson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> This covers it more completely:
>>
>>
>> http://obamapacman.com/2010/03/myth-copyright-theft-apple-stole-gui-from-xerox-parc-alto/
>>
>> Cedric - Xerox lost their lawsuit.  Somehow you forgot to mention that.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:50 AM, [email protected] <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "In return for the right to buy US$1,000,000 of 
>>>> pre-IPO<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPO>stock, Xerox granted Apple 
>>>> Computer three days access to the PARC
>>>> facilities. After visiting PARC, they came away with new ideas that would
>>>> complete the foundation for Apple Computer's first 
>>>> GUI<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUI>computer, the Apple
>>>> Lisa 
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lisa>.[9]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Apple_Inc.#cite_note-8>
>>>> [10] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Apple_Inc.#cite_note-9>[
>>>> 11] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Apple_Inc.#cite_note-10>[
>>>> 12] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Apple_Inc.#cite_note-11>"
>>>
>>>
>>> Paying for the right to visit is not the same as buying a license to use
>>> what you see.
>>>
>>> And indeed, Xerox ended up suing Apple:
>>>
>>> "In the midst of the *Apple v. Microsoft* lawsuit, 
>>> Xerox<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox> also
>>> sued Apple alleging that Mac's GUI was heavily based on Xerox's" 
>>> (source<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microsoft_Corporation>
>>> ).
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> "Xerox's lawsuit appeared to be a defensive move to ensure that if *Apple
>>> v. Microsoft*established that "look and feel" was copyrightable, then
>>> Xerox would be the primary beneficiary, rather than Apple. The Xerox case 
>>> was
>>> dismissed<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_(company)#Adoption_by_Apple>,
>>> for a variety of legal reasons"
>>>
>>>
>>> It's pretty clear how Xerox felt about Apple stealing their ideas.
>>>
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