Hmm. try sorting the start by name. when you are in the start menu hit your 
apps key and hit b for sort by name, or arrow to it, 
and hit enter.

SA&G

: Hi,
:
:     In the start menu tab, the radio button for classic was already
: checked.
:
: When I hit enter on the customize button,
:
: Expand My Documents-OFF
: Expand My Pictures-OFF
: Expand Network Connections-OFF
: Expand Printers-OFF
: Scroll Programs-OFF
: Show Small Icons in Start menu-OFF
: Use Personalized Menus-ON
:
: In the task bar tab
:
: Lock the taskbar is checked
: Auto-hide the taskbar is not checked
: Keep the taskbar on top of other windows is checked
: Group similar taskbar buttons is not checked
: Show Quick Launch is checked
: Show the clock is checked
: hide inactive icons is not checked
:
:     I don't know if it has anything to do with the current problem,
: but the
: only way I've found of getting to the control panel is via settings
: in the
: start menu.  I could swear control panel was listed along with drive
: a,
: local disk (C drive) on the desktop when I hit enter on My Computer,
: but
: there's no item for it with the new hard drive and I'd like to get it
: back
: since that's where I'm used to finding it when I go to add/remove
: programs.
:
:     Thanks,
:
: Margaret
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:50 PM
: Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Programs sub-Menu Inconsistent Re:
: ItemsDisappearedfrom Desktop
:
:
: Hi Margaret,
: It sounds like you are useing the XP start menu.
: You can change this by going to the control panel, and selecting task
: bar
: and start menu.
: When this opens, choose the start menu tab, and make your changes
: there.
: HTH,
:   ----- Original Message -----
:   From: Margaret Thomas
:   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
:   Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:19 PM
:   Subject: [JAWS-Users] Programs sub-Menu Inconsistent Re: Items
: Disappearedfrom Desktop
:
:
:   Hi All,
:
:       I'm still trying to configure things on the new XP hard drive
: to my
:   liking and to set them up the way they acted on the old hard drive.
: One
:   item is giving me fits and I hope someone can tell me which item in
: the
:   instructions for configuring XP Home with SP 2 to work best with
: JAWS
: needs
:   to be changed or can help me understand what my tech did.
:
:       One problem is that when I want to go to items in the Programs
: sub-menu,
:   JAWS announces Accessories unavailable submenu at least half the
: time and
:   first letter navigation in programs is iffy.  If For example, a few
: minutes
:   ago, pressing J only announced JFW 7.1 and 8.0 even though other
: versions
: of
:   JAWS are on the machine.
:
:       The following items are in the start menu when I hit the
: Windows key:
:   Microsoft Update
:   New Office Document
:   Open Office Document
:   Set Program Access and Defaults
:   Windows Catalog
:   Windows Update
:   Programs
:   Documents
:   Settings
:   Search
:   Help and Support
:   Run...
:   Log Off MARGARET...
:
:       When I get the accessories unavailablee sub-menu and arrow down
: I get
:   Inachis
:   JAWS 7.10
:   JAWS 8.0
:   Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal
:   Outlook Express
:   Windows Media Player ----- Original Message -----
:
:   If I up arrow , I get Windows Movie Maker and if I down arrow 1
: time, I
: get
:   the accessories submenu spoken correctly with
:
:   Accessibility
:   Communications
:   Entertainment
:   System Tools
:   Address Book
:   Calculator
:   Command Prompt
:   Notepad
:   Paint
:   Program Compatibility Wizard
:   Remote Desktop Connection
:   Scanner and Camera Wizard
:   Synchronize
:   Tour Windows XP
:   Windows Explorer
:
:
:   listed in it
:
:   Right arrowing to open it doesn't always work.
:
:       I finally had a sighted person here this morning to see if she
: could
:   tell what was going on, but something if messed up with my setup
: and the
:   monitor only worked with the 98 machine and nothing showed on the
: monitor
:   with the XP running.
:
:       IE 7 is on the XP.
:
:       Any help in getting this straightened out would be greatly
: appreciated.
:
:   Margaret
:
:
:
:   From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:   To: "jaws-users" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
:   Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:14 AM
:   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop
:
:
:   Sarah,
:
:       That did the trick.  I noticed that a bunch of items in "All
: Users"
: had
:   also disappeared and started your instructions at "C" to do the
: whole hard
:   drive.
:
:       Do you know if the radio button for Open each folder in the same
: window
:   or Open each folder in its own window should be checked?  The
: original
:   instructions I had to configure XP to use with JAWS didn't mention
: it and
: I
:   think it's partly where I ran amuck.  Open each folder in the same
: window
: is
:   checked at the moment.
:
:       Thanks again,
:
:   Margaret
:
:
:   "Sarah" wrote:
:
:
:   Hello. You need to show hidden files and folders to see all of the
: folders
:   and files in the username folder. You need to go to
:   tools/folder options and go to the next tab over and shift tab to
: the tree
:   and  hit s for show hidden files and folders and hit
:   space to turn that on.
:
:   SA&G
:
:   : Hi Joseph,
:   :
:   :     I got the files for the scrip in the right place using your
:   : instructions.  I haven't tried the application yet to see if they
:   : "took"
:   : since I should be fresh to tackle it.
:   :
:   :     As far as your instructions for JAWS and XP, WMP 11 is the
: only
:   : player
:   : installed on the machine.  I'm not sure I'm finding the option to
:   : change
:   : file types and what to do with if I'm in the right place.  I did
: find
:   : something about file types under the tools and options.  The only
:   : thing I've
:   : done with WMP 11 is to burn a couple of CD's and that was before
: the
:   : new
:   : hard drive was installed and it might need to be configured to
: work
:   : best
:   : with JAWS.  I did find an item in the menus for classic menus and
:   : things are
:   : now slightly more familiar, but I really have no idea what I'm
: doing
:   : in the
:   : program and things are messed up enough now, so any detailed
:   : instructions
:   : would really be appreciated to avoid fouling things up even more.
:   :
:   :     Thanks,
:   :
:   : Margaret
:   :
:   :
:   : "Joseph Lee" wrote:
:   :
:   :
:   : Hi Margaret,
:   : 1.  Script installation:
:   : a.  Find the script files (everything) then copy it to clipboard
:   : (CTRL plus c).
:   : b.  Go to Start Menu/Programs/JAWS 7.1/Explore/Explore My
:   : Settings.  You should land at the location where JAWS has script
:   : files.
:   : c.  Press CTRL plus v to paste the script files.
:   : You should restart JAWS before the scripts can take effect.
:   : 2.  XP Home and JAWS: the information presented here is accurate.
:   : Follow it and you should use JAWS efficiently.
:   : 3.  File association: this problem is caused by what's called
:   : "file association" issue i.e.  to associate a file type with a
:   : program.  Go to the program which the wave sound (wav) was
:   : registered as file type (possibly Winamp).  Go to the location
:   : where you can see settings for that media player and you should
:   : see an option to change file types.  Check to see if wav is
:   : checked.  Or you might want to reinstall this media player and it
:   : should work from there.
:   : Cheers,
:   : Joseph
:   :
:   :> ----- Original Message -----
:   :>From: "Margaret Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:   :>To: "jaws-users" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
:   :>Date sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:48:10 -0400
:   :>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Items Disappeared from Desktop
:   :
:   :>Hi All,
:   :>    I went to install some JAWS scripts this afternoon and
:   : discovered that a
:   :>whole slew of items are missing from my XP Home with SP2 desktop.
:   :
:   :>    The path should be
:   :
:   :>C:\Documents and Settings\Margaret\Application Data\Freedom
:   :>Scientific\JAWS\7.10\Settings\enu
:   :
:   :>    All there is in Margaret is
:   :
:   :
:   :>Desktop
:   :>Favorites
:   :>My Documents
:   :>Start Menu
:   :
:   :>none of which belong there.  Applicacation Data is not there and
:   : any number
:   :>of other items.
:   :
:   :>    Yesterday, I was trying to configure XP for best use with
:   : JAWS since
:   :>some things were still not the way they were on my old hard drive
:   : before my
:   :>machine went to the shop and my tech installed a new hard drive
:   : and programs
:   :>were re-installed and configured.  I was trying to follow the
:   : instructions
:   :>in an old post:
:   :>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:   :>Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:12 PM
:   :>Subject: Re: jfw 5.1 xp settings
:   :
:   :>Here is the info.  The link can be found on the jfw lite page
:   : under helpful
:   :>hints, I believe.
:   :>For your convenience though, here is the actual document from
:   : Freedom
:   :>Scientific's web site.
:   :>Windows XP and JAWS
:   :
:   :>This topic discusses settings changes we recommend you make when
:   : using JAWS
:   :>in Windows XP Home or Professional.  You must be logged in with
:   :>administrative rights to make several of these changes.
:   :
:   :>Many of these settings are changed within Control Panel.  To open
:   : Control
:   :>Panel, press the WINDOWS KEY to open the Start Menu, move to
:   : Control Panel,
:   :>and press ENTER.  Depending on your system settings, Control
:   : Panel either
:   :>opens
:   :>in a separate window, or the Control Panel items open as a
:   : sub-menu.
:   :
:   :>We recommend making changes in the following areas:
:   :>..  Display Properties
:   :>..  Folder Options
:   :>..  Start Menu
:   :>..  Windows Explorer
:   :>..  System Performance
:   :
:   :>Display Properties
:   :
:   :>1.  From the Control Panel, move to "Display" and press Enter.
:   :>2.  From the themes combo box, select Windows XP.
:   :>3.  In the List of backgrounds on the Desktop page, choose Bliss.
:   :>4.  Set Position to "Stretch".
:   :>5.  In the Screen Saver combo box on the Screen Saver page, press
:   : HOME to
:   :>select none.
:   :>6.  On the Appearance page, set Windows and Buttons to Windows
:   : classic style.
:   :>7.  Set Color Scheme to Windows Standard.
:   :>8.  Set Font to normal.
:   :>9.  Close the dialog.
:   :
:   :>Note: After making these changes, the Display page Themes combo
:   : box says
:   :>"Modified Theme".
:   :
:   :>Folder Options
:   :>1.  From the Control Panel, press ALT+T to go to the Tools menu
:   :>2.  Press O for Folder Options.
:   :>3.  From the Tasks radio button group, select Use Windows Classic
:   : folders
:   :>4.  (Optional):
:   :>A.  On the View page, move to the Advanced Settings tree view.
:   :>B.  Clear the Hide Extensions For Known File Types check box.
:   :>C.  If you also use screen magnification software, clear the Show
:   : pop-up
:   :>description for folder and desktop items check box.  Pop up
:   : descriptions
:   :>often hides
:   :>the menu item just below any given menu item, making it
:   : impossible to
:   :>visually see the next item in the menu list.
:   :>D.  Move to the Apply to All Folders button and press SPACEBAR.
:   :>E.  Answer Yes to the dialog that comes up to acknowledge this
:   : change.
:   :>5.  Move to the OK button in the Folder Options dialog box and
:   : press SPACEBAR
:   :>to close this dialog box.
:   :
:   :>Start Menu
:   :>1.  From Control Panel, Move to Taskbar and Start menu and press
:   : ENTER.
:   :>2.  From the Taskbar page, press ALT+G to move to and uncheck
:   : Group Similar
:   :>Taskbar Buttons.
:   :>3.  Press ALT+H to move to and uncheck the check box for Hide
:   : inactive icons.
:   :>4.  Press CTRL+TAB to move to the Start Menu page.
:   :>5.  Select Classic start menu.
:   :>6.  Press ENTER to close this dialog box.
:   :
:   :>Windows Explorer
:   :>1.  Press WINDOWS KEY+E to open Windows Explorer.
:   :>2.  Press ALT+V to open the View menu.
:   :>3.  Select "Arrange Icons by" and press ENTER to open the
:   : submenu.
:   :>4.  Move to the menu item "Name" to arrange by Name, and Press
:   : ENTER to
:   :>select this and close the menus.
:   :>5.  Repeat steps 2 and 3, and move to the item "Show in Groups."
:   : If it is
:   :>checked, press ENTER to uncheck it and close the menus.
:   :>6.  Press ALT+T to open the Tools menu.
:   :>7.  Press O to open the Folder Options Dialog.
:   :>8.  Press CTRL+TAB to move to the View page.
:   :>9.  Press SPACEBAR to activate the "Apply to all folders" button,
:   : and press
:   :>SPACEBAR on the YES button to acknowledge this change.
:   :>10.  Move to the OK button and press SPACEBAR to close this
:   : dialog box.
:   :
:   :>System Performance
:   :>1.  From the Control Panel, move to System and press ENTER to
:   : open the System
:   :>Properties Dialog.
:   :>2.  Press CTRL+TAB to move to the Advanced page.
:   :>3.  Press ALT+S to activate the Performance Settings button.  The
:   : Performance
:   :>Options Dialog opens.
:   :>4.  Clear the following check boxes:
:   :>..  Animate Windows when Minimizing and Maximizing.
:   :>..  Slide open Combo Boxes.
:   :>..  Smooth-scroll List Boxes.
:   :>..  Use Visual Styles on Windows and Buttons.
:   :>5.  Press ENTER to close the Performance Options dialog and
:   : return to the
:   :>System Properties dialog box.
:   :>6.  Press ENTER to activate the OK button and close the System
:   : Properties
:   :>dialog box.
:   :
:   :>    Earlier today, I got another .wav file I download to play
:   : when Windows
:   :>starts instead of the one it had been starting up with.
:   :
:   :>    Any suggestions on how to get my desktop back the way it was
:   : would be
:   :>greatly appreciated.
:   :
:   :>    Thank you,
:   :
:   :>Margaret
:
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