As I say Rick and all, I can't duplicate this using the latest public beta 
of JAWS 9. Maybe it's specific to certain sound cards, I don't know.
Chris Hallsworth
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista


> when you are cursoring around anywhere.  clicks, crackles and pops will be
> often heard.  I call it the "rice crispies effict"
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Maria Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
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>
> When does this Eloquence issue arise?
> I'm using JAWS 9.0.399 and XP, without a problem.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
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>
>> Yes it is.  I talked to someone the other day that told me it hapens on 
>> XP
>> as well.
>>
>> Rick
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Maria Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
>>
>>
>> I haven't been following this thread closely, because I don't have VISTA.
>> Is Eloquence in XP affected in any way with the final release of JAWS 9?
>> I haven't noticed any difference, using the beta version.
>>
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
>>
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> in my opinion you should have never let  it ship that way.  I'm very
>>> picky
>>> about how things sound and think it sounds terrible.  I have talked with
>>> others and they feel the same way as I do.  Now Jaws eloquence sounds as
>>> bad
>>> as it does on window eyes in my opinion.  I don't use eloquence with
>>> window
>>> eyes and if Jaws 9 ships like you say it will then perhaps I'll stop
>>> using
>>> jaws until the problem is resolved.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Eric Damery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick,
>>> This has not changed further than it is in build 467. This is something
>>> we
>>> will continue to work on but in the meantime, for anyone who finds it to
>>> be
>>> an issue, we will have them use the 8.0 Eloquence Driver in Vista. I 
>>> have
>>> heard the problem you've described but on all the systems in the office
>>> we
>>> have tested, the problem has not been very bad. The increased
>>> responsiveness
>>> seems to have far out weighed any down side which is why we put it in 
>>> the
>>> release at this point.
>>>
>>> For anyone that is experiencing the issue, it is a quick change to put 
>>> it
>>> back as you know and we will have a TSN posted.
>>> Regards,
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rick Harmon
>>> Sent: Sat 11/17/2007 5:03 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes they offered a downgrade to eloquence for jaws  8 to fix it.  I'm
>>> hopeful they'll fix it for the final release though.
>>>
>>> Rick
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "AMTK161" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't had that degree of problems with Eloquence and JAWS 9.0.467;
>>> perhaps if FS can't fix the problem they should offer a downgradeable
>>> version?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 14:16
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 8 and vista home premium
>>>
>>>
>>>> Eloquence sounds like crap now with the rice crispies effect.  I'll 
>>>> take
>>>> some slowness which I didn't have on my machine over the constant
>>>> crackling.
>>>> FS is aware of this problem but dosent' know if it will be resolved in
>>>> the
>>>> jaws 9 final or not.  I for one will not be pleased if it's not fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
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>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 3:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 8 and vista home premium
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> JAWS 8.0.2173 (The last JAWS 8.0 release) works with Windows Vista Home
>>>> Premium.  If possible, I'd recommend upgrading to JAWS 9.0 once the
>>>> final
>>>> release comes out...Eloquence is a lot more responsive, and a lot of
>>>> problems have been fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Junior Lolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "Jaws users list" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 14:02
>>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 8 and vista home premium
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This subject has probably discussed several times.
>>>>> But I will ask once more.
>>>>> Does jaws 8 and vista home premium work well together?
>>>>> I just bought a lap top with vista home premium on it.
>>>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Junior Lolley kg4itd Liberty County E. C.
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