I don't know either but it happens on more than one sound card I am certain of that much. FS is aware of the issue as well. I've spoken with someone inside that I will not name names to not get anyone in trouble. But even they said it happens and sounds quite bad.
Rick -- Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net and my web Blog at: http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put subscribe in the subject line. Contact info: Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype - rharmon928 MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista As I say Rick and all, I can't duplicate this using the latest public beta of JAWS 9. Maybe it's specific to certain sound cards, I don't know. Chris Hallsworth BrailleNote mPower User Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista > when you are cursoring around anywhere. clicks, crackles and pops will be > often heard. I call it the "rice crispies effict" > > -- > Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: > http://www.blind-geek-zone.net > and my web Blog at: > http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ > Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and put subscribe in the subject line. > > Contact info: > > Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype - rharmon928 > MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maria Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:34 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista > > > When does this Eloquence issue arise? > I'm using JAWS 9.0.399 and XP, without a problem. > > > Sunny Day > Maria Campbell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Lord, let me be a shining light > In all I say and do, > That Your great love displayed in me > May lead someone to You. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista > > >> Yes it is. I talked to someone the other day that told me it hapens on >> XP >> as well. >> >> Rick >> >> >> -- >> Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: >> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net >> and my web Blog at: >> http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ >> Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> and put subscribe in the subject line. >> >> Contact info: >> >> Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype - rharmon928 >> MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Maria Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista >> >> >> I haven't been following this thread closely, because I don't have VISTA. >> Is Eloquence in XP affected in any way with the final release of JAWS 9? >> I haven't noticed any difference, using the beta version. >> >> >> Sunny Day >> Maria Campbell >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Lord, let me be a shining light >> In all I say and do, >> That Your great love displayed in me >> May lead someone to You. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:48 AM >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista >> >> >>> Eric, >>> >>> in my opinion you should have never let it ship that way. I'm very >>> picky >>> about how things sound and think it sounds terrible. I have talked with >>> others and they feel the same way as I do. Now Jaws eloquence sounds as >>> bad >>> as it does on window eyes in my opinion. I don't use eloquence with >>> window >>> eyes and if Jaws 9 ships like you say it will then perhaps I'll stop >>> using >>> jaws until the problem is resolved. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: >>> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net >>> and my web Blog at: >>> http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ >>> Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> and put subscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> Contact info: >>> >>> Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Skype - rharmon928 >>> MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Eric Damery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:29 AM >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista >>> >>> >>> Rick, >>> This has not changed further than it is in build 467. This is something >>> we >>> will continue to work on but in the meantime, for anyone who finds it to >>> be >>> an issue, we will have them use the 8.0 Eloquence Driver in Vista. I >>> have >>> heard the problem you've described but on all the systems in the office >>> we >>> have tested, the problem has not been very bad. The increased >>> responsiveness >>> seems to have far out weighed any down side which is why we put it in >>> the >>> release at this point. >>> >>> For anyone that is experiencing the issue, it is a quick change to put >>> it >>> back as you know and we will have a TSN posted. >>> Regards, >>> Eric >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rick Harmon >>> Sent: Sat 11/17/2007 5:03 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes they offered a downgrade to eloquence for jaws 8 to fix it. I'm >>> hopeful they'll fix it for the final release though. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> -- >>> Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: >>> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net >>> and my web Blog at: >>> http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ >>> Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> and put subscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> Contact info: >>> >>> Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Skype - rharmon928 >>> MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "AMTK161" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista >>> >>> >>> I haven't had that degree of problems with Eloquence and JAWS 9.0.467; >>> perhaps if FS can't fix the problem they should offer a downgradeable >>> version? >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 14:16 >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 8 and vista home premium >>> >>> >>>> Eloquence sounds like crap now with the rice crispies effect. I'll >>>> take >>>> some slowness which I didn't have on my machine over the constant >>>> crackling. >>>> FS is aware of this problem but dosent' know if it will be resolved in >>>> the >>>> jaws 9 final or not. I for one will not be pleased if it's not fixed. >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: >>>> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net >>>> and my web Blog at: >>>> http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ >>>> Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> and put subscribe in the subject line. >>>> >>>> Contact info: >>>> >>>> Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Skype - rharmon928 >>>> MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "AMTK161" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 3:07 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 8 and vista home premium >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> JAWS 8.0.2173 (The last JAWS 8.0 release) works with Windows Vista Home >>>> Premium. If possible, I'd recommend upgrading to JAWS 9.0 once the >>>> final >>>> release comes out...Eloquence is a lot more responsive, and a lot of >>>> problems have been fixed. >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Junior Lolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "Jaws users list" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 14:02 >>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 8 and vista home premium >>>> >>>> >>>>> This subject has probably discussed several times. >>>>> But I will ask once more. >>>>> Does jaws 8 and vista home premium work well together? >>>>> I just bought a lap top with vista home premium on it. >>>>> Thanks very much. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Junior Lolley kg4itd Liberty County E. 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