Gerald,

I may have been wrong about ctrl-alt-j having been assigned by me to JAWS6.2 in a time before I removed it. Anyway, now by your definition ctrl-alt-j shouldn't have worked for any other program on my computer either, since I do have HJAWS10 and one or two other versions of JAWS that were only installed from the JAWS CD. . however, i just tried it by making a shortcut key for Duxbury Braille Translator and choosing j to be added to the default alt and ctrl keys. I okayed the change, closed the program, went elsewhere, and then pressed ctrl-alt-j. Duxbury opened. (Since this was an experiment only, i then deleted the key ifrom DBT desktop shortcut properties where i had made it.) neither did i get a windows dong sound, which i should have, if the chosen hot key were for some reason unavailable.

it may be that thsome of those hot key utilities actually create hot keys where theyt don't pre-exist, and puts them in a hidden folder. Would that someone from the JAWS side of FS would settle this question. People have experienced a lot of problems making shortcut keys stick to JAWS.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for starting JAWS



Okay, here's the deal. If you originally installed JAWS 6 on your computer from the CD, it most likely was assigned the shortcut key Alt-Control-J at the time of installation. Once you removed this version of JAWS from your computer, the shortcut key Alt-Control-J remained behind in a "hidden" system folder. Therefore, it cannot now be reassigned to any other version of JAWS (or any other program for that matter) unless it is first deleted manually using one of the shortcut key utilities. A pre-assigned shortcut key does not get deleted automatically when you remove the program it launches. Since in my case Alt-Control-J was pre-assigned to JAWS 9 when I installed it from the CD, I could still use its Properties page to assign a second shortcut key to launch it. So I can press either Alt-Control-J (pre-assigned at time of installation) or Alt-Control-9 (assigned by me through the JAWS 9 desktop icon Properties page) to launch it. Again, I urge you to check the origin of all the shortcut keys on your computer using one of the shortcut key utilities.

Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for starting JAWS


Which version of JAWS gets activated when you press ctrl-alt-j (on your computer)? (this isn't a redundant question: You're allowed to have multiple different versions of JAWS on your same computer.) I have both JAWS8 and JAWS9 on mine, and neither of them gets activated when i press the ctrl-alt-j keystroke. Nor did i want that. I think i may have had JAWS6.2 with ctrl-alt-j on this computer; but I removed that version. So perhaps I'll give JAWS11 a try and see if ctrl-alt-j will automatically take, or whether I'll need to input it. if a shortcut key is already used, it should not be allowed to be used for a different program or different version of a program. I know that several programs come with their own pre-packaged shortcuts; but JAWS, until today, i didn't reckon was one of them; and FS never said there was an already existing JAWS keyboard shortcut. A desktop shortcut, yes; but you the user needed to input your desired keystroke to make of it a keyboard shortcut (AKA shortcut key). thus, the commonly repeated instructions given here (by many, not just me), on the list over the past couple of years on how to make keyboard shortcuts to start JAWS quickly.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for starting JAWS



At the risk of being redundant, I stand by my claim that installing JAWS from the CD (at least for JAWS 8 and9) does, in fact, automatically create the shortcut key Alt-Control-J. This shortcut key cannot be accessed from the Properties page of the JAWS desktop icon, and in fact, is almost impossible to delete accidentally, because it is stored in a different file than the user-assigned shortcut keys. Many programs automatically create shortcut keys when they are installed, including MS Word (Alt-Control-W) and Open Book (Alt-Control-O). The only easy way to determine the actual origin of a particular shortcut key is to check it using a utility like Hot Key Detective or Shortcut Key Explorer, both of which are available on the JAWS Users programs page. You might even be surprised to discover that you have "hidden" shortcut keys on your computer that you didn't realize existed.

Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for starting JAWS


The JAWS install does not automatically create a shortcut hot key. The
desktop shortcut is created, but no hot key.  You need to do this
yourself as described below. The only thing that I have found is that if you do this using JAWS, the hot key wil not stick. The only way I
have been able to do this for JAWS is to do it using another screen
reader.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for starting JAWS


If you installed JAWS from the CD, it is automatically assigned the
shortcut
key Alt-Control-J. If this keystroke combination doesn't work for you,
you
can create your own JAWS shortcut key by following these steps:
1. Launch the Desktop by pressing Windows key-M.
2. Press J repeatedly until you land on the JAWS icon.
3. Press Alt-Enter to bring up the JAWS Properties page.
4. Tab to the Shortcut key field, and type in the shortcut key
combination
of your choice, like Alt-Control-J or whatever other combination you
prefer.
5. Tab to Apply button, hit Space, then tab around again to the Okay
button
and hit Space.  That's it.  Now, when you press Alt-Control-J or
whatever
shortcut key you assigned, JAWS will be launched.  HTH.

Gerald

----- Original Message ----- From: "Janelle Vacanti" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for starting JAWS


Do you know how I can make one?

---- Flor Lynch <[email protected]> wrote:
There is no given shortcut key, so you make your own.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Janelle Vacanti" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for starting JAWS


> Hi All,
> Does anybody know of a shortcut key that will start JAWS? I > know
that
> NVDA's is Control plus Alt plus N.
>
>
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