I thought the Edsel was an awesome design.  It fit in perfectly well in
the original "Muppet Movie"!  Actually, I recall Edsel being a separate
company that was bought up by Ford. 

Yes, many experts are saying Steven Sinofsky is just a scapegoat. 
However, most experts who are more familiar with the attitudes and inner
workings of Microsoft have a different view!  Balmer has always not
gotten along with Steven Sinofsky, and there were many, many complaints
about his combative, strict, gruff management style.  He set up
competitive positions between Microsoft divisions, such as X-Box,
Windows, and phone. Steven Sinofsky does not promote cooperation within
the company.  Balmer still believes in the "one interface everywhere"
and wants lots of synergy and cooperation between divisions.  He is
still pushing this hard between Windows 8, Windows RT (on Surface),
X-Box, and Windows 8 phone. 

Personally, I have no problem with Microsoft trying out a new
interface.  Other than interesting Metro wide contracts now available,
like DLNA (play to network device) and sharing features, I see little
advantage in the new tiled mobile style interface.  The current apps are
dumbed down, not mature, and most are difficult or impossible to use
with a screen reader.  As a former Chief Technology Officer in a
Corporate IT department, I can not see large companies wanting to rush
into Windows 8.  My concern is whether Microsoft continues to dumb down
computing and eliminate the desktop or something just as powerful! 

*Don Marang*
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org
<http://www.vinuxproject.org/>


On 11/23/2012 3:39 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
>
> If that is the case, Steve Dallmer is apparently looking for a
> scapegoat to lay the blame on in case Win 8 turns out to be the next
> Edsel of operating systems.  Anyone else old enough to rmember the
> Edsel?  It was the laughing stock of the auto industry when it was
> introduced by Ford in 1959, and it it was such a colossal flop that it
> almost brought the company to its knees. Will Win 8 do the same to MS?
>
> Gerald
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Windows 8 And JAWS
>
>
>> A cording to sources in the know, they fired the fellow.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy"
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 1:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Windows 8 And JAWS
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Actually, from what I have read, Win 8 may turn out to be an even
>>> bigger nightmare for MS than Vista.  Last week, the design executive
>>> largely responsible for Vista, Win 7 and Win 8 (Steve shirofsky or
>>> something like that) abruptly resigned from MS, no doubt to get out
>>> before the you know waht hits the fan. I just hope Win 9 takes a
>>> more sensible approach than the shotgun,one-OS-fits all-devices
>>> strategy taken by Win 8. For now, I plan to stick with trusty XP and
>>> see what happens.
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Justice"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 12:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Windows 8 And JAWS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Steven,
>>>> Most of the changes in Windows 8 are geared toward the mobile
>>>> market, not so
>>>> much on the PC.
>>>> I would hold off, Microsoft may have another Vista, on their hands.
>>>> You can get a program called, "Classic Shell", that will give you the
>>>> familiar
>>>> Windows classic start menu, but you still need to deal with 
>>>> ribbons  in
>>>> Windows Explorer if my memory serves me correctly.
>>>> As far as an upgrade, I would prefer to do a clean install of an
>>>> O/S instead
>>>> of an upgrade from a existing version of Windows.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Rick Justice
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Hicks"
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 12:43 AM
>>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Windows 8 And JAWS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> is anyone using Microsoft Windows 8 and JAWS that can tell me if it
>>>> is worth
>>>> the upgrade please, my Wife has offered to buy it for me for a
>>>> present.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take care all,
>>>>
>>>>
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