Hi Flor & David, I agree with you Flor, everyone knows I've had my share! Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: Flor Lynch To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a general apology from a former member who wantsbackon here Good. Almost everybody has their 'off' days; when they are feeling angry for some reason, or they inadvertently send a message to the list that was meant to be sent to an individual instead, or if their email goes on too much as a monologue in a one-way direction. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:49 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] a general apology from a former member who wants backon here >I said he would be allowed back on if he apologies to the list and >followed > the list guidelines. > > Some of his correspondence is included in this message if anybody > wants to > read it. If not just hit delete. At the very least read his apology. I > don't > like having to play the heavy but that's the job list owners assume > when we > put ourselves out there and start such things. > > Mr. Patterson's message follows: > David Ferrin > [email protected] > Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the > ones > that mind don't matter. > >>From: Gary Patterson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:14 PM > To: 'David Ferrin' > Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list > > I apologize for sending a "rude" message to the JAWS list. > > > Gary Patterson > >>From: David Ferrin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list > > Nobody on the list made such a statement. I told you it was my call > right > down the line. You see we play the heavy's so we get all of the grief. > > That way nobody else takes the fall. > > Like I said earlier if you are willing to just offer a general apology > and > follow the guidelines I will put you back on the list. I just want > peace in > our time. > > If you don't want back on that's your choice. Just remember not > everybody is > a script writer and as such not as skillful as you are. Your other > message > mentions the sponcers of the list, and also you wish to state your > case. By > all means state it. > > Just please stop cluttering up my inbox. > David Ferrin > [email protected] > Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the > ones > that mind don't matter. > >>From: Gary Patterson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:42 AM > To: 'David Ferrin' > Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list > > I have been informed that someone wanted me banned from the JAWS user > list. > I will offer an apology but for what I do not know. I think the person > who > did this deed identify themselves to me and/or the list. Someone > sneaking > behind my back acuseing me of some unknown deed is not showing very > good > character. > > At this point, the party will have to contact me directly since I am, > at > this point, am banned from the list. > > > Gary Patterson > >>From: David Ferrin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list > > Unfortunately not everybody has the skills for doing their own > research like > we have ourselves. I admit myself it does get tiring when people seem > to ask > endless questions but that is how the learning process begins. Many > such > people over the years have started out like that but have turned in to > productive computer users in their own right. Not everybody is going > to do > that obviously and for those people we do have to try and be > considerate. > > If there is a time when somebody has to be the heavy then that falls > to me > or my team leaving people like you and other list members in the > clear. I > would have to double check the archives to find out who the lady is > but the > fact is it was my call to remove you. Nothing personal you understand, > it is > just that I have been on lists where things like that are permitted > and > often times once that bottle is opened the genie won't go back in. > > In short since it is so early just offer an apology to the list in > general > and let me and my people do our jobs so life can move on. Obviously > you > benefit from the list or you wouldn't care so much about getting back > on it. > > David Ferrin > [email protected] > Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the > ones > that mind don't matter. > >>From: Gary Patterson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:10 AM > To: 'David Ferrin' > Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list > > I will apologize if I know who and my rude treatment. Who thought I > was > rude? How was I rude? > > If it were this lady that was sending out messages asking for many > many help > questions, I will have to think about that to apologize. If it is her, > I > believe it is rude for someone who asks probably 20 questions day > after day > and not attempting to do any research herself. So who is it? > > If she thinks I was rude, I'm not sure that she deserves an apology. > Isn't > rude for someone to ask many many questions for each little step to > develop > her web site. If this is permissible, let me know what you think. > Questions > are welcome but enough is enough as far as I am concerned. Everything > I have > learned is mainly through research and attempts to solve the problems. > So > once again, who is this person and how was I rude to her? > > > Gary Patterson > >>From: David Ferrin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 9:21 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list > > If memory serves you were especially rude to a young lady. If you are > willing to apologies to her then I wouldn't have a problem allowing > you back > on. It's up to you. > > David Ferrin > A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have > evolved from > a simpler system that worked perfectly. >>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On >>Behalf > Of Gary Patterson > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 5:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: my name is banned from this list > > I wrote you a week ago asking that I be permitted to subscribe to the > JAWS > user list. I once again submitted the request today. The same result > happened today. > > I know of no reason that I be banned from this list. I have not read > the > posts from this list in a while, so I couldn't have done anything to > support > this action. If you have evidence of the contrary, let me know. It's > probably a year or more since I last posted to this list. > > Hopefully you will not ignore my request. > > Gary Patterson > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
