Thanks for the apology, Gary. I have my local library sending me a book on Html coding. It's a start and I'm looking into getting a book from the Nsational Braille Press for a book I can keep. I've learned if you don't ask questions, you won't learn anything. That's what I'm working on, asking more questions.Since I'm not a programmer, I've let my web host fix anything that's gone wrong with my website.
On 7/10/14, Mike B. <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Flor & David, > > I agree with you Flor, everyone knows I've had my share! > Take care. > Mike > This email was sent from my, iBarstool. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Flor Lynch > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a general apology from a former member who > wantsbackon here > > > Good. Almost everybody has their 'off' days; when they are feeling angry > for some reason, or they inadvertently send a message to the list that > was meant to be sent to an individual instead, or if their email goes on > too much as a monologue in a one-way direction. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Ferrin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:49 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] a general apology from a former member who wants > backon here > > >>I said he would be allowed back on if he apologies to the list and >>followed >> the list guidelines. >> >> Some of his correspondence is included in this message if anybody >> wants to >> read it. If not just hit delete. At the very least read his apology. I >> don't >> like having to play the heavy but that's the job list owners assume >> when we >> put ourselves out there and start such things. >> >> Mr. Patterson's message follows: >> David Ferrin >> [email protected] >> Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the >> ones >> that mind don't matter. >> >>>From: Gary Patterson [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:14 PM >> To: 'David Ferrin' >> Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list >> >> I apologize for sending a "rude" message to the JAWS list. >> >> >> Gary Patterson >> >>>From: David Ferrin [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:57 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list >> >> Nobody on the list made such a statement. I told you it was my call >> right >> down the line. You see we play the heavy's so we get all of the grief. >> >> That way nobody else takes the fall. >> >> Like I said earlier if you are willing to just offer a general apology >> and >> follow the guidelines I will put you back on the list. I just want >> peace in >> our time. >> >> If you don't want back on that's your choice. Just remember not >> everybody is >> a script writer and as such not as skillful as you are. Your other >> message >> mentions the sponcers of the list, and also you wish to state your >> case. By >> all means state it. >> >> Just please stop cluttering up my inbox. >> David Ferrin >> [email protected] >> Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the >> ones >> that mind don't matter. >> >>>From: Gary Patterson [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:42 AM >> To: 'David Ferrin' >> Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list >> >> I have been informed that someone wanted me banned from the JAWS user >> list. >> I will offer an apology but for what I do not know. I think the person >> who >> did this deed identify themselves to me and/or the list. Someone >> sneaking >> behind my back acuseing me of some unknown deed is not showing very >> good >> character. >> >> At this point, the party will have to contact me directly since I am, >> at >> this point, am banned from the list. >> >> >> Gary Patterson >> >>>From: David Ferrin [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:42 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list >> >> Unfortunately not everybody has the skills for doing their own >> research like >> we have ourselves. I admit myself it does get tiring when people seem >> to ask >> endless questions but that is how the learning process begins. Many >> such >> people over the years have started out like that but have turned in to >> productive computer users in their own right. Not everybody is going >> to do >> that obviously and for those people we do have to try and be >> considerate. >> >> If there is a time when somebody has to be the heavy then that falls >> to me >> or my team leaving people like you and other list members in the >> clear. I >> would have to double check the archives to find out who the lady is >> but the >> fact is it was my call to remove you. Nothing personal you understand, >> it is >> just that I have been on lists where things like that are permitted >> and >> often times once that bottle is opened the genie won't go back in. >> >> In short since it is so early just offer an apology to the list in >> general >> and let me and my people do our jobs so life can move on. Obviously >> you >> benefit from the list or you wouldn't care so much about getting back >> on it. >> >> David Ferrin >> [email protected] >> Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the >> ones >> that mind don't matter. >> >>>From: Gary Patterson [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:10 AM >> To: 'David Ferrin' >> Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list >> >> I will apologize if I know who and my rude treatment. Who thought I >> was >> rude? How was I rude? >> >> If it were this lady that was sending out messages asking for many >> many help >> questions, I will have to think about that to apologize. If it is her, >> I >> believe it is rude for someone who asks probably 20 questions day >> after day >> and not attempting to do any research herself. So who is it? >> >> If she thinks I was rude, I'm not sure that she deserves an apology. >> Isn't >> rude for someone to ask many many questions for each little step to >> develop >> her web site. If this is permissible, let me know what you think. >> Questions >> are welcome but enough is enough as far as I am concerned. Everything >> I have >> learned is mainly through research and attempts to solve the problems. >> So >> once again, who is this person and how was I rude to her? >> >> >> Gary Patterson >> >>>From: David Ferrin [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 9:21 PM >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: RE: my name is banned from this list >> >> If memory serves you were especially rude to a young lady. If you are >> willing to apologies to her then I wouldn't have a problem allowing >> you back >> on. It's up to you. >> >> David Ferrin >> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have >> evolved from >> a simpler system that worked perfectly. >>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>Behalf >> Of Gary Patterson >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 5:36 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: my name is banned from this list >> >> I wrote you a week ago asking that I be permitted to subscribe to the >> JAWS >> user list. I once again submitted the request today. The same result >> happened today. >> >> I know of no reason that I be banned from this list. I have not read >> the >> posts from this list in a while, so I couldn't have done anything to >> support >> this action. If you have evidence of the contrary, let me know. It's >> probably a year or more since I last posted to this list. >> >> Hopefully you will not ignore my request. >> >> Gary Patterson >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Pen Name: Mellissa Green Twitter @abluegreenunivs For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
