So, Are you saying that we should simply support both - but not a third strategy which somehow supports sandboxing AND optimised intra-container calls ?
1. Serialised. intra-vm calls should cause a suitable WARNING - not an ERROR. 2. I believe that we need a third strategy. This is not the 'ex-cathedra' pronouncement that I was hoping someone else would make, I haven't given it enough thought - but it might be a start. I think, after a good 5 mins deep consideration, that the App server should provide the following classes to a SANDBOXED application. 1. J2SE x.x 2. J2EE y.y 3. Common local infrastructure Since the app is sandboxed, it should be able to override these with it's own version. I guess if you want your own version of JAXP then you should probably have to include your own implementation as well. Should the app-server not try, even in this situation, to optimise intra-container calls ? Jules --- Rickard Öberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Julian Gosnell wrote: > > > Your just putting the onus on the Application > > programmer to work around shortcomings in the > Server - > > I think..... > > > Yes, the app programmer needs to know about > classloading. Bug.. > feature.. bug... feature.. which'll it be? :-) > > On the one hand, having straight-forward > classloading makes it easy to > develop a web-app. On the other hand, having > sandboxed classloading > makes the web-app more self-contained and portable, > since they don't > rely on the surrounding server to provide any of its > classes. > > > If you do that with Jetty in stand-alone, > compliant > > mode - you will simply find you are using the JAXP > > that Jetty loaded to parse it's own XML > configuration > > files. > > > Yes, the straight-forward mode. > > > > If you do it with Jetty in embedded, non-compliant > > mode - you will find isAssignableFrom() fails. > > > Yup, the more complex and portable case. > > /Rickard > > -- > Rickard Öberg > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
