OK, I'll risk one more posting...
Marc, You seem to understand where I am coming from ! When will this new CL stuff come in ? Jetty's WAR CL will be a child of the one passed us by the J2EEDeployer in Thread.currentThread().getContextClassLoader(). What should it's behaviour be ? 1. DELEGATE up, then look in WAR (Java2 compliant) 2. Look in WAR, then DELEGATE up (sandboxing WebApp) 3. neither of the above. I have mentioned the problems associated with each approach already in this thread. 1. Optimisation code currently works - but containers classes are used in preference to WAR's 2. WAR's classes used, but optimisation code currently fails. 3. ??? Now a bit of an ill-informed rant: Since using a Remote EJB interface is more restrictive than using a Local one (everything must be serialisable) I can guarantee that whilst a Local interface may not work remotely, a Remote interface will always work locally... Still with me ? Therefore, why shouldn't my choice be to always use a Remote interface if I can, thus keeping all my options open and why shouldn't JBoss be able to apply exactly the same optimisations that it would to a local LocalInterface deployment to my local RemoteInterface deployment ? In fact why do I need a Local interface at all ? I don't want the interface to mandate my geographical location. I want all that done by a hot-pluggable implementation which will go as fast as it can in any given deployment scenario. It's all just a dynamic proxy anyway - isn't it ? I'm putting on my flame-proof jacket right now....... If anyone wants me I'm on holiday, with my EJB2.0 spec trying to understand what the hell's going on. Peace and Love, Jules P.S. Be gentle - it's been a hard day... --- marc fleury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > |If they are not optimised, RH currently throws an > |exception and the test fails. So this needs fixing. > > RH is still using the old CL structure for the apps, > when we default to the > scope stuff, this class of problems will go away, we > will need to integrate > them with Jetty in teh 2 fashions explained above > (actually the rh cl > integration native due to teh silly spec > requirements). > | > |I have heard of, but know nothing about, local > |interfaces. I would have thought though, that they > |must still be constrained by the basic laws of > Class > |"assignability" - i.e. if the way the ClassLoaders > is > > that is correct, see my previous mail, orthogonal > issues, rickard is > sleeping this morning > > |Anyway, JBoss attempts to implement optimised > |intra-container calls through the standard > interface. > |Are you suggesting we should throw all this code > away > |now? It would save me a lot of effort. > > are you kidding? as you know that won't simplify the > problem and forcing > people to use "local" stuff in EJB is still weird in > my mind. WORA/SMCHORA > sentimental bull. > > |Otherwise this brings us straight back to the same > |problem. ClassLoader architecture which is what I > need > |to coordinate between JBoss and Jetty in order to > pass > |the testsuite. > > yes, correct. > > marcf| > |Jules > | > | > |> /Rickard > |> > |> -- > |> Rickard Öberg > |> > | > |__________________________________________________ > |Do You Yahoo!? > |Everything you'll ever need on one web page from > News and Sport to > |Email and Music Charts > |http://uk.my.yahoo.com > | > |------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > |Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 > |Refill any ink cartridge for less! > |Includes black and color ink. > |http://us.click.yahoo.com/XwUZwC/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/CefplB/TM > |---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > | > |For the latest information about Jetty, please see > http://jetty.mortbay. > | > |Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > | > | > > > _______________________________________________ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development