Guys,

I'm not sure why James is getting flamed to such an extent for mostly saying
that the Flashline system is not working???

Whatever - I just tested it and it worked fine for me??!?!?!?

James' suggestion about a summary of the new features and current state
is not a bad one.....  but I guess that is being addressed by the wiki
discussion  (The webmacro wiki is good. Twiki used to crash a lot for me).

Note that open an slather wiki site will get lots of contributions, but
will not make great doco, plus it will get trashed at least once a month
- from my experience of using wiki with Jetty.

So I would say try to constrain what we use it for to what it is good at -
recording current status and FAQs.  People should still be writing doco.

cheers



marc fleury wrote:
> mr trawick james,
> 
> suck my dick
> 
> marcf
> 
> 
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> |Trawick, James
> |Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:33 PM
> |To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists.
> |Sourceforge. Net
> |Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
> |
> |
> |Not unfounded, personally proven.
> |
> |In any case there needs to be some sort of kickstart and executive summary
> |for the new JBoss features.  If it means that I'll finally get the answers
> |I'm looking for without holding for three hours and/or putting up with the
> |hellfire here, I'll be more than happy to help produce that.
> |
> |I was not aware that the docs for sale were actually available.  My
> |experience has been the exact opposite.  On three separate occaisons over
> |the past couple of months I've attempted to purchase the clustering
> |documentation.  Each time I received a message saying that there was a
> |problem with their side of the transaction and a support rep would be in
> |contact with me.  Despite multiple attempts to open communications about
> |these cases with Flashline, they have failed to do so.  Emails apparently
> |went to the bit bucket and their phone support reps have proven to be
> |anywhere from rude to utterly incompetant.  So for my purposes, the docs
> |aren't real because for whatever reason I can't get to them despite my
> |willingness to pay the mere $10 for quality documentation.  At least they
> |didn't charge me for it.
> |
> |chris
> |
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> |Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:10 PM
> |To: Trawick, James
> |Cc: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists.
> |Sourceforge. Net
> |Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
> |
> |
> |Clustering docs are available for purchase.
> |
> |http://www.flashline.com/components/productsbyvendor.jsp?&vendorid=
> |1376&affi
> |liateid=260343
> |
> |I've also written an article on "clustering" JBoss 2.4.x
> |
> |http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2001/09/18/jboss.html
> |
> |Clustering features in JBoss beta:
> |HA-JNDI, HA-RMI, EJBs(EB, SLSB, SFSB) Failover and load-balancing
> |
> |The code for HTTP Session Failover is in CVS, but is a work in progress.
> |Ask Sacha and Julian how it's going.  I don't work on this stuff.  HTTP
> |Session Failover will probably only be available for Jetty.
> |
> |I don't know what you're talking about when you say docs for sale aren't
> |real, because we've already sold at least a 100 copies of the clustering
> |docs.  Sacha and I have gotten good feedback on these docs so your
> |complaints are unfounded.
> |
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> |> Trawick, James
> |> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:28 PM
> |> To: 'David Ward'
> |> Cc: 'marc fleury'; Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net;
> |> Jboss-User@Lists. Sourceforge. Net
> |> Subject: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
> |>
> |>
> |> What I'm really interested in is the more corporate questions 
> |(we're still
> |> battling for JBoss over Weblogic, and clustering is a real sore
> |> point).  How
> |> does JBoss 3 clustering interact with web container clustering?
> |> If they're
> |> completely separate (which I'm pretty sure is the case, as it was
> |> last time
> |> I walked through the code), how can I put together a full clustered J2EE
> |> stack with JBoss and (for example) Tomcat/Catalina?  To what level does
> |> JBoss provide high-availability?  What are some failover scenarios?  How
> |> does one initiate a graceful failover for server maintenance?  How
> |> flexible/controllable is JBoss clustering in reality?
> |>
> |
> |Failover scenarios?
> |- failed network card
> |- server crash
> |- application crash
> |- What else?
> |
> |Initiate graceful failover for Server maintainance?
> |Just gracefully shutdown jboss.  The Cluster dynamically figures out
> |topology.  Topology information is piggy-backed over invocation 
> |responses to
> |client proxies when it changes.
> |
> |How flexible/controllable?
> |We wanted to keep things as simple as possible for the initial release to
> |reduce code complexity and make sure we get the core things 
> |correct.  If you
> |want to know how flexible, buy the docs.  It's only $10.00.
> |
> |Bill
> |
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