yes, david pitched it at boston, and i already said that this would be interesting as part of the jboss professional forums. andreas is working on these, it weeds out the non professional people with a small fee that makes sure you are not just cruising by and sending your 'i can't get my bean to run' and keeps it high quality. then we could actually assign someone from the group to maitain it for pay and that would probably work.
more on that as soon as we can marcf |-----Original Message----- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff |Tulley |Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:52 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL | | |What would it take to get a wiki up and running? I think that is a very |good idea. It is worth experimenting with, anyway. Something like that |is incremental and if the right categories were created, people would |have a place to quickly contribute without having to be a committer. I |like the idea. Then some of that could probably be organized and |funnelled into a formal doc, if we decide it would be better, but even |if that never happened, what the heck, it would still be pretty good. | |Jeff Tulley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) |(801)861-5322 |Novell, Inc., the leading provider of Net business solutions |http://www.novell.com |>>> David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/14/02 18:12 PM >>> |On 2002.03.14 19:11:13 -0500 Mac Rinehart wrote: | |For what its worth I think the best format for something like this would |be a wiki, so that updating it doesn't need to involve cvs commits and |rebuilding the website. Ideal would be a version controlled j2ee wiki |running in jboss/jetty;-) Marc hasn't been thrilled yet with this idea |(user howto wiki), but probably if someone made it happen his attitude |might change. | | |Thanks! |david jencks |> |> Mac Rinehart, President |> Sextant Technology Consulting, Inc |> |> Legal stuff: SEXTANT TECHNOLOGY CONSULTING is a trademark of Sextant |> Technology Consulting, Inc. Any agreement to render services by Mac |> Rinehart |> and/or Sextant Technology Consulting, Inc. is contingent upon an |> agreement |> in writing and signed by all interested parties. |> |> |> -----Original Message----- |> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of |David |> Jencks |> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:22 PM |> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL |> |> |> Ummm.... |> In your previous post you wrote |> "I've seen a lot of |> complaints |> in the forums regarding the same issues in the documentation for sale |- |> probably the only reason I haven't laid down my 10 spot yet. " |> ... |> "And if I were going to pay for |> documentation, I don't want a print document that's going to be out of |> date |> in two weeks. " |> |> A couple of minutes of investigation would have revealed that the for |pay |> 2.4.4 documentation you are declining to buy so as to, perhaps, show |your |> support of JBoss and encourage the developers to write more |> documentation, |> is the exact same book that you are applauding at Amazon: |> |> http://www.jboss.org/doco.jsp |> |> "In order to support the development of JBoss and ensure that the |> documentation remains up to date, we offer a PDF version of the JBoss |> book |> to be published by SAMS publishing. " |> |> Following the link also brings you to the Comperehensive Documentation |> Subscription at the very top of the page, really hard to miss. |> |> david jencks |> |> On 2002.03.14 17:50:27 -0500 Mac Rinehart wrote: |> > Another reason for different versions of the documentation for |> different |> > releases. The fact is that some people - particularly risk conscious |> > corporate users - will continue to use 2.4 and not jump to 3.0 until |> > another |> > rev or two are out the door. |> > |> > Regarding Open source friendly tech writers - I think that could |work, |> > but |> > it's got to take a little formal organization from the inside too. I |> can |> > see |> > tech writers donating their writing services, but they probably |would |> > like |> > to have some established procedures for how to access information, |> style |> > conventions and the like. I see that they sort of information is |> > available |> > for developers, I haven't seen it for tech writers (which doesn't |mean |> > much |> > since I've only been following things actively for a couple of |weeks). |> > |> > I would provide some tech writing services pro-bono, but |establishing a |> > procedure for getting the documentation in place is something that |> takes |> > a |> > little organization. What's the status on JBoss Group's process for |> > developing administration and user documentation? |> > |> > And BTW, this seems to be a good opportunity for plugging "JBoss |> > Administration & Development", coming out on March 22 and doing |> excellent |> > on |> > sales at Amazon already! Congrats. How does the book do in terms of |> > covering |> > version 3? |> > |> > |> > Mac Rinehart, President |> > Sextant Technology Consulting, Inc |> > |> > Legal stuff: SEXTANT TECHNOLOGY CONSULTING is a trademark of Sextant |> > Technology Consulting, Inc. Any agreement to render services by Mac |> > Rinehart |> > and/or Sextant Technology Consulting, Inc. is contingent upon an |> > agreement |> > in writing and signed by all interested parties. |> > |> > |> > -----Original Message----- |> > From: David Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:42 PM |> > To: Mac Rinehart |> > Cc: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists. |> > Sourceforge. Net |> > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL |> > |> > |> > It doesn't always lag - sometimes it's too eager! Example: I had a |> > gripe that 2.4 documentation started disappering off the web site, |> being |> > replaced with 3.0 documentation when 3.0 was only alpha. I think |that |> > the 2.4 docs should stay available online - at least until 3.x goes |> > final. |> > |> > Mac Rinehart wrote: |> > > The free user documentation is only moderately useful, and |> > > lags behind development on a number of issues. |> > |> > BEGIN:VCARD |> > VERSION:2.1 |> > N:Rinehart;Mac;;President |> > FN:Mac Rinehart |> > ORG:Sextant Technology Consulting |> > TITLE:President |> > TEL;WORK;VOICE:(503) 251-2855 |> > ADR;WORK:;;7402 SE Yamhill Street;Portland;OR;97215;USA |> > LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:7402 SE Yamhill |> > Street=0D=0APortland, OR 97215=0D=0AUSA |> > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |> > REV:20011008T212138Z |> > END:VCARD |> > |> |> _______________________________________________ |> Jboss-development mailing list |> [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development |> |> BEGIN:VCARD |> VERSION:2.1 |> N:Rinehart;Mac;;President |> FN:Mac Rinehart |> ORG:Sextant Technology Consulting |> TITLE:President |> TEL;WORK;VOICE:(503) 251-2855 |> ADR;WORK:;;7402 SE Yamhill Street;Portland;OR;97215;USA |> LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:7402 SE Yamhill |> Street=0D=0APortland, OR 97215=0D=0AUSA |> EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |> REV:20011008T212138Z |> END:VCARD |> | |_______________________________________________ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development | | |_______________________________________________ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
