|obviously has to have customers, and those customers deserve respect.

Customers pay,

My comments stand

marcf

|
|Sincerely,
|
|Brian Sondergaard
|
|P.S. I'll buy you a pitcher (or two) next week in SF.
|
|----- Original Message -----
|From: "marc fleury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|To: "Trawick, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
|"Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net"
|<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jboss-User@Lists. Sourceforge.
|Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:22 PM
|Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
|
|
|> mr trawick james,
|>
|> suck my dick
|>
|> marcf
|>
|>
|> |-----Original Message-----
|> |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
|> |Trawick, James
|> |Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:33 PM
|> |To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists.
|> |Sourceforge. Net
|> |Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
|> |
|> |
|> |Not unfounded, personally proven.
|> |
|> |In any case there needs to be some sort of kickstart and executive
|summary
|> |for the new JBoss features.  If it means that I'll finally get the
|answers
|> |I'm looking for without holding for three hours and/or putting up with
|the
|> |hellfire here, I'll be more than happy to help produce that.
|> |
|> |I was not aware that the docs for sale were actually available.  My
|> |experience has been the exact opposite.  On three separate
|occaisons over
|> |the past couple of months I've attempted to purchase the clustering
|> |documentation.  Each time I received a message saying that there was a
|> |problem with their side of the transaction and a support rep would be in
|> |contact with me.  Despite multiple attempts to open communications about
|> |these cases with Flashline, they have failed to do so.  Emails
|apparently
|> |went to the bit bucket and their phone support reps have proven to be
|> |anywhere from rude to utterly incompetant.  So for my purposes, the docs
|> |aren't real because for whatever reason I can't get to them despite my
|> |willingness to pay the mere $10 for quality documentation.  At
|least they
|> |didn't charge me for it.
|> |
|> |chris
|> |
|> |-----Original Message-----
|> |From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|> |Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:10 PM
|> |To: Trawick, James
|> |Cc: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net; Jboss-User@Lists.
|> |Sourceforge. Net
|> |Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
|> |
|> |
|> |Clustering docs are available for purchase.
|> |
|> |http://www.flashline.com/components/productsbyvendor.jsp?&vendorid=
|> |1376&affi
|> |liateid=260343
|> |
|> |I've also written an article on "clustering" JBoss 2.4.x
|> |
|> |http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2001/09/18/jboss.html
|> |
|> |Clustering features in JBoss beta:
|> |HA-JNDI, HA-RMI, EJBs(EB, SLSB, SFSB) Failover and load-balancing
|> |
|> |The code for HTTP Session Failover is in CVS, but is a work in progress.
|> |Ask Sacha and Julian how it's going.  I don't work on this stuff.  HTTP
|> |Session Failover will probably only be available for Jetty.
|> |
|> |I don't know what you're talking about when you say docs for sale aren't
|> |real, because we've already sold at least a 100 copies of the clustering
|> |docs.  Sacha and I have gotten good feedback on these docs so your
|> |complaints are unfounded.
|> |
|> |> -----Original Message-----
|> |> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> |> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
|> |> Trawick, James
|> |> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:28 PM
|> |> To: 'David Ward'
|> |> Cc: 'marc fleury'; Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net;
|> |> Jboss-User@Lists. Sourceforge. Net
|> |> Subject: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS 3.x FINAL
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> What I'm really interested in is the more corporate questions
|> |(we're still
|> |> battling for JBoss over Weblogic, and clustering is a real sore
|> |> point).  How
|> |> does JBoss 3 clustering interact with web container clustering?
|> |> If they're
|> |> completely separate (which I'm pretty sure is the case, as it was
|> |> last time
|> |> I walked through the code), how can I put together a full clustered
|J2EE
|> |> stack with JBoss and (for example) Tomcat/Catalina?  To what
|level does
|> |> JBoss provide high-availability?  What are some failover scenarios?
|How
|> |> does one initiate a graceful failover for server maintenance?  How
|> |> flexible/controllable is JBoss clustering in reality?
|> |>
|> |
|> |Failover scenarios?
|> |- failed network card
|> |- server crash
|> |- application crash
|> |- What else?
|> |
|> |Initiate graceful failover for Server maintainance?
|> |Just gracefully shutdown jboss.  The Cluster dynamically figures out
|> |topology.  Topology information is piggy-backed over invocation
|> |responses to
|> |client proxies when it changes.
|> |
|> |How flexible/controllable?
|> |We wanted to keep things as simple as possible for the initial
|release to
|> |reduce code complexity and make sure we get the core things
|> |correct.  If you
|> |want to know how flexible, buy the docs.  It's only $10.00.
|> |
|> |Bill
|> |
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