Ok then there are 4 weeks to get the new stuff done?

Marc, Bill, sure we could do a release but what difference would it make if the new features are not in it. Is this a release just to show off AOP? What about any of the other new stuff?

Just give the users a solid 3.2 and they will be happy.

-dain

On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 03:30 PM, Bill Burke wrote:

It will be ready and stable.  Functionality freeze is May 5th.  What
functionality doesn't make it by then will be left out of the release.

Bill

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I think you are delusional if you think JB4 will be ready for JavaOne.


-dain

On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 02:47 PM, marc fleury wrote:

Guys,

We are thinking a lot about the forthcoming JB4 release. It is a truly
exciting step for us as we believe we will bring a programming style,
whose time has come, to a mass audience.


AOP as Bill says is a clear wave for system level services on par with
OOP. On top of it and also as a proof of how powerful the approach is
we still develop a full J2EE server. Meaning that you can choose to
live in the J2EE world work on JBoss J2EE and access all the
prepackaged
AOP goodies as you have been doing since JBoss2.0.


There seems to be a lot of fear at SUN from what I can tell in the
press, that we will abandon J2EE.  We love J2EE. When really we will
support J2EE for the forthcoming future.  Never do we talk about
"abandoning" J2EE, we just let the user access core functionality in
the
open server and think at the AOP level.  A more fundamental construct
of
the framework.

The reason we are almost there is that it is also a very old
implementation in JBoss. We have been doing it for a long time but
never talked/packaged it this way. We make it easy for you to leverage
the AOP layer. The implementation is old the way you interact with
JBoss
is new. It can also be old if you decide to stay at the J2EE level
which will be fully supported.


But you are now invited to roam in the core JBoss system, in fact you
may find it very cozy as you port POJO based applications to JBoss.
There will be a stabilization period though. We are making an
aggressive push to release JB4 by JavaONE with all our resources
dedicated to implementing the final AOP system aspects and porting some
of the existing code to that.


We're making an aggressive push to release JBoss 4.0 by JavaOne. We're
targeting May 26th. That leaves us 2 month from now.


I REPEAT TARGET FOR JBOSS4.0 DR1 **** MAY 26TH****


To meet this aggressive deadline, we need to set some dates. There
will
be a functionality freeze, Monday, May 5th. All new functionality
commits after May 5th must be approved by either Scott Stark, or Bill
Burke. We will not branch May 5th, but instead make the month of May,
JBoss 4.0 stability en route to a Developpers Release 1 (DR1).


Please think long and hard and fast about your modules.  Many of you
are
involved in core modules that need to move fast in the coming weeks.
Don't be afraid to talk and say who needs help etc.

PLgC

marcf



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