Thanks for your time and thanks for the clarifications.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ward [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss-Catalina 2.4.3 - server.xml file
>
> Vinay,
>
> Addressing your points:
>
> 1) By saying "got it to work" I meant I extracted the zip file, set
> execute permissions on run_with_catalina.sh, started it up, and dropped
> my app into the deploy directory. It doesn't get much simpler than that.
>
> 2) I don't think you're screwed. Though yes, I'm having trouble with
> mod_webapp proxying to jboss/tomcat (a) that's not JBoss' fault - it's
> the mod's, (b) there is, believe it or not, a version of mod_jk for
> tomcat 4 in the works, and (c) you should evaluate how much of your
> content is dynamic and how much is static. If all your pages are
> dynamic, Apache isn't buying you much - in fact the mod_xxx go-between
> might be dragging you down. There's been a lot of discussion on this,
> especially now that rumor has it Tomcat 4 screems like Jetty. Everyone
> agrees Tomcat 3 was (is) slow. I think, initially, Tomcat was designed
> to be a standards-compliance testbed (read: reference impl). I don't
> think they every intended people to go to production with it. Tomcat 4
> is a completely new architecture, though - one which is much more ready
> for prime time.
>
> 3) I agree with you on this point, though my preference is to always
> deploy via jboss, because it's so much easier for me (Ant just drops in
> the file and I'm up and running). I hope there will be a release soon
> where tomcat 4's server.xml is respected. That was a problem with the
> JBoss/Tomcat3 bundle for a while.
>
> David
>
> --
>
> menonv wrote:
>
> > David,
> >
> > 1. U shouldn't have to 'get it to work' that is not what JBoss was
> about.
> > That is what Weblogic and all the other crap servers are about. If you
> have
> > to 'get' things to work I don't know where we are getting to.
> > 2. I did get the war file to deploy via the deploy directory yesterday -
> > finally - but it does not work with Apache/mod_jk anylonger which means
> that
> > our set up is screwed cos noone under the sun would use Tomcat as a
> > webserver.
> > 3. If JBoss 'integrates' with Tomcat it does not mean that it stops
> tomcat
> > working as it should. A war file should be a war file under Tomcat even
> if
> > it has been integrated into JBoss. It should deploy if it has been put
> under
> > Tomcat webapps. Period.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Vinay
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: David Ward [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:26 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss-Catalina 2.4.3 - server.xml file
> >>
> >>Vinay,
> >>
> >>I got it to work, as I'm sure many others did (or else they wouldn't
> >>have released it). No, not all applications need to be deployed via ear
>
> >>files. If your deployment unit is a war file, just drop it in jboss'
> >>deploy subdir and it will dynamically deploy it, which is much easier
> >>than having to having to tweak tomcat's server.xml file. Actually, in
> >>tomcat4 there is a "manager" webapp that allows you, via hitting certian
>
> >>url's, to deploy an app without restarting tomcat - but that's still a
> >>step that can be avoided if you just use jboss/tomcat and drop you file
> >>in the deploy subdir. JBoss will also auto-deploy ejb jar files too,
> >>and also ear files as you know.
> >>
> >>Two reasons off the top of my head why you would want to use ear files:
> >>
> >>1) It allows you to deploy ejb's in the same application space as your
> >>webapp, so your servlets (or whatever) can use the ejb's by reference,
> >>not remotely (saving you from serialized calls). If you use Tomcat 4
> >>"as a stand alone container in its own rights," you are asking for
> >>degraded performance in this arena.
> >>
> >>2) It allows you to name the context-root for your web application via
> >>application.xml. If all you drop in the deploy dir is a war file, than
> >>the path you access your webapp with in your browser is the name of the
> >>war file, minus the extension, so jboss.home/deploy/foobar.war will be
> >>available at http://localhost:8080/foobar/. However, if you want your
> >>url path to be different, you can specify a different contex-root in
> >>application.xml in your ear file. You're probably used to doing this in
>
> >>server.xml, but doing it in your application bundle makes it
> >>standardized for all J2EE-complient servers. I've succesfully deployed
> >>the same ear file (without repackaging) in both JBoss/Tomcat and
> >>WebLogic 6, without a single change (either to my deployment unit or to
> >>either of the server's config files). All I have to do is make sure I
> >>have all the right xml descriptors included. As an aside, WebLogic 6
> >>has auto-deploy directories too, but it doesn't seem to be as robust as
> >>JBoss' (auto re-deploying blows up for me on WebLogic).
> >>
> >>That all being said, I'm still having a problem with mod_webapp because
> >>the syntax for the WebAppDeploy directive requires an app name "as
> >>present in your "webapps" directory. However, using Tomcat4 embedded in
>
> >>JBoss, I'm not using the webapps directory. mod_jk never had the
> >>stipulation of the webapp actually having a declared directory, so
> >>wherever JBoss wanted to extract the war didn't matter. Of course, none
>
> >>of that is pertinant to the email you wrote...
> >>
> >>Hope this helps to clear things up,
> >>David
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>menonv wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Has anyone really got the new JBoss 2.4.3 - Tomcat 4.0 bundle to work.
> >>>
> >>While
> >>
> >>>I understand that applications need to be deployed via ear files why
> >>>
> >>does
> >>
> >>>JBoss not support the container as it used to in the previous release?
> >>>
> >>What
> >>
> >>>is my deployment unit is a war file? Does it mean that I need to
> package
> >>>
> >>it
> >>
> >>>into a ear file just to get the whole thing to work?
> >>>
> >>>Why is it so? And what benefit do we get out of it? I just think that
> >>>
> >>this
> >>
> >>>concept of not supporting the Tomcat 4.0 container as a stand alone web
> >>>container in its own rights is kind of disappointing.
> >>>
> >>>Regards
> >>>
> >>>Vinay
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Papo Napolitano [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 6:57 PM
> >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>Subject: [JBoss-user] JBoss-Catalina 2.4.3 - server.xml file
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>I've installed the Jboss with Tomcat 4.0 and it doesn't work ok.
> >>>>I start, and the server is up, but it seems that Tomcat doesn't read
> the
> >>>>server.xml file from the conf directory.
> >>>>If I start Tomcat alone it works fine.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any idea ??
> >>>>
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>Papo.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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