> Ok,
> what i mean is this:
> The 'invisible' presence in jabber is a perfect example for a spec which
> can be omitted. I user may feel happy that he is invisible, but in fact
> he only thinks he is invisible, because some people still see him
> online, but as 'invisible'.
>
> that as a fundament, i mean that p2p functions are much easier to walk
> around (i.e. ban - a user can silently ignore the ban ....)

Ohh do you mean it is easy for someone who has been banned from accessing
the p2p conference to get back onto it? Well there are ways around that, one
having to request the permission of someone in the conference if you can
join before you are allowed to, i.e. when you are given permission to access
the conference you are given a list of the JID's of the people in the
conference which you will then each establish connections with (using SI or
something), and if you get banned that ban will be transmitted to all the
other members of that conference so even if you have the JID's of the
members of the conference those members will deny your requests to setup an
SI connection.

Richard

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