Hi,

The thought was, the protocol defines administration in p2p, for some
reasons ... i.e. ban/kick, a client does not necessarily have to follow
these specs, i can silently ignore a ban/kick.
Ah yes the client could ignore someone (quite a good idea), but whoever is
the op/admin could also have the ability to kick someone from the chat
entirely.

Sure, that should be the initial person or the maintainer oif the conference. There shoudl also be a private area where people need the permission of - at leats - the maintainer to contribute.

i pulled in an existing example, the same goes for the 'invisible'
presence, to show that a p2p spec won't lead anywhere beside sharing
streams. That really is my opinion on this.
if a client doesn't implement presence inv. an inv user still is
online...

Only to be sure: Nobody should listen to a conference without to be visible for the other useres. No spys!




Carsten

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