Aside from what I've already said:

* mobile first; responsive
* servlet 3.0/ jax-rs 1.1
* pretend stapler never existed
* pretend our icon system never existed; use font-awesome
* make keyboard shortcuts (see my plugin) part of the base
* make the entire UI based on jax-rs so we can re-skin it easy
* AJAX everything, no more stupid "auto-refresh"
* no more stupid s/m/l icons, mobile first!
* all plugins should expose all info over jax-rs, not stapler

On and on and on and on.... this isn't difficult. Gus, and everyone
else, seem to want to make 1.x+1 and not 2.0. I really don't get it,
sorry. The ideas that I've seen from Gus and company are not good at
all. Why bother with 2.0.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Michael Neale <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do you have any specific feedback other than disagreement with an assertion?
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 2:10:28 PM UTC+11, Jesse Farinacci wrote:
>>
>> My $0.02 is that you're totally on the wrong track entirely. In the
>> redesign. In the claim that the website is shit. I don't think I've
>> ever disagreed more with a single person not working at Oracle.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Gus Reiber <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hey all,
>> >    So a related thread exists here, but I have a couple of bits I didn't
>> > want lost in a thread. They are:
>> >
>> > We are hiring! I am looking for a contract based web designer with a
>> > nice
>> > portfolio to show to help author new site templates and do some
>> > information
>> > architecture for Jenkins-ci.org. If you know someone, you can reach me
>> > on
>> > Twitter @gusreiber, or email me gusreiber(at-symb)cloudbees(dot-com) or
>> > find
>> > me on IRC, freenode/#jenkins/gusreiber. You would be part of a fairly
>> > tight
>> > 3 person team that would include myself, R Tyler Croy (whom you might
>> > know
>> > from such places as this list) and yourself. Daniel Beck, and KK and the
>> > will of the community will also be dropping their input along the way.
>> >
>> > We are discussing! Even if you don't feel you have the time or
>> > qualifications to join the team in exchange for money, we still want to
>> > hear
>> > from you.
>> >
>> > With those two little action items out of the way, here is the gist of
>> > the
>> > discussion so far....
>> >
>> > Jenkins.org has a website (http://jenkins-ci.org/), but it isn't very
>> > good,
>> > (made evident in part by the fact that I am posting this message to you
>> > through this site instead of that one). It contains some documentation,
>> > a
>> > few blog articles, the Jenkins bits (most importantly), and the plugins
>> > directory (next most importantly). It is my belief that this site needs
>> > to
>> > have more of a social, 2-way communication aspect to it such that it can
>> > truly be the mecca to which Jenkins developers turn when they want their
>> > soules to be filled with the light of CI/CD knowledge.
>> >
>> > To that ends, I have posted a proposal for what that might look here:
>> >
>> > https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Jenkins+2.0+Website+vision+from+Gus+Reiber
>> >
>> > https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/download/attachments/82673948/knowledge-site.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1443574130000
>> >
>> > ...also, the plugin browsing experience really should be a lot better.
>> > To that ends, here is a related video:
>> > http://youtu.be/pMwsZRo5He8
>> >
>> > If you've got $.02....
>> > ...drop-em.
>> >
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