On 07.10.2015, at 11:13, Baptiste Mathus <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm currently quite happy with the box on the right about downloading 
> Jenkins. I guess this one could be made even bigger and polished, but 
> basically it has the information I'm generally wanting to crawl:
> * Download either LTS or latest

I've seen quite a few users who don't know that LTS exists or what it is. So 
there's still some potential for improvement here.

> * Changelog (maybe even more importantly. Btw, maybe even more love about the 
> user feedback per version could be given. That feature is absolutely great).
> * Must be one of the first things you see when coming to jenkinsci.org (or 
> jenkins.cd or jenkins.build ;-)).

So here's one of the problems: The site doesn't tell you anything when you 
visit if you don't already know everything.

Want to learn about Jenkins? Go to the wiki (and that has its own problems -- 
https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/pages/diffpages.action?originalId=82020311&pageId=82020440).
 Hope it doesn't advertise Indonesian (?) drugs today.

We have a blog, but its visibility is fairly low -- a section on the index page 
about the newest N blog posts would be helpful. Similarly with the event 
calendar, where we've started adding events where people talk about Jenkins to 
it -- but I doubt anyone has noticed.

> Apart from that, random thoughts on the current one:
> * 1094 is wrong (IIRC, almost 1200 currently). We need to either find a way 
> to retrieve the correct value, or be approx. Not displaying a wrong precise 
> number.

We only consider released and published plugins, not repos. It takes the 
information from http://updates.jenkins-ci.org/pluginCount.txt; which is 
generated during update site generation. It's about the same number as plugins 
in the JSON (depending on which variant you're using), so there may be a bug 
involving the different update sites we generate, but it's not off by more than 
20 or so.

> * going to the wiki, with different font is disruptive indeed. Would be great 

Yep, I'm advocating for *some* blessed (well, reviewed) documentation. Some 
wiki pages (e.g. on reverse proxy) are a sequence of {info} boxes that each 
were added by a different author, rather than one coherent page. We can, and 
should, do better than that. It'll also give us a chance to overhaul some 
terribly outdated documentation -- for example, 
https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Building+a+software+project should 
probably mention Subversion post-commit hook endpoints.

> * Having recently revamped my blog using a static site generator (Hugo), I'm 
> excited about the same thing going on for Jenkins Website. I personnally 
> think this will indeed increase/improve contribution overall.

Awesome! I'm really looking forward to seeing PRs for site content (and even 
structure/design). I think this has great potential for greater community 
involvement.

> * Docker package: outdated image too. Now it's docker pull jenkins (but pull 
> isn't going to be enough, anyway :))

The LTS tab has that command (which gives you current LTS); and 
jenkinsci/jenkins is supposed to be the current weekly. Not sure who maintains 
that though.

> * do we really want to keep the "Upgrading from hudson" on the front page in 
> the future?

Good point. No. If you're still on Hudson, that train has left the station long 
ago.

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