I re-read this and I think I understand you better.

2015-10-02 17:58 GMT-07:00 Daniel Beck <[email protected]>:

>
> On 02.10.2015, at 20:17, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > My key take away is that we can drive participation more by encouraging
> people to sign up and create an account, which converts them from anonymous
> drive-by visitors into a "card carrying member of the Jenkins community",
> which makes a lot of sense.
>
> It's definitely in interesting concept.
>
> The major problem I see with this is the need for moderation when everyone
> is allowed to post everywhere. And that doesn't even consider the manual
> work needed to correlate the work of numerous individual contributors as
> mentioned at the bottom. This requires that the moderator tools are
> exceptionally strong to not take up a lot of time.
>

So I'm re-reading "everyone is allowed to post everywhere" as "anyone can
submit arbitrary PR that makes arbitrary changes" and "moderation" as
"reviewing & merging PRs"

I thought how our Wiki works today in this regard is good. We let people
make edits without any checks and 99% of them are good. Occasional
offenders gets kicked out (thanks to larrys.)

Why does the same not work when we switch to PR? Banning spammers become a
lot easier, and problems can be easily reverted.

Where is the new need for moderation?


One other issue that concerns me is that the vision requires a lot of
> participation to take off. Maybe I'm too pessimistic here, but I see a
> similar situation like those small business web sites with a section called
> 'special offers' or 'news' that is never updated. It just looks sad if e.g.
> you can vote on things in a list, and nothing has been voted on. A site
> should grow towards the described level of participation rather than go
> from basically nothing to that level. What do others think?
>

Our Wiki gets like 10 updates everyday. I think we can expect this level of
participation to continue after switching from Confluence to Git+PR. Can
you elaborate on what problems you are seeing?

-- 
Kohsuke Kawaguchi

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