Yeah, I've had the same problem with trying to justify one-day
inter-continental conference trips, so being longer would help — though
note that this proposal would likely only be a two-day conference for
the majority of potential non-US participants (i.e. they're not likely
to care about Day 0).

Being adjacent to other events makes sense as well — much like happens
for a bunch of events before and after FOSDEM.


On 20/10/15 13:34, Robert Sandell wrote:
> I had a somewhat different problem, that it was hard to motivate the
> travel expense across the pond for a mere one day conference.
> A three day conference would be easier to motivate in my experience;
> previously working for a larger corporation with large investment in
> Jenkins at least.
> The first Jenkins user conference in 2011 was easy to motivate since it
> was adjacent to Java One. The others were harder.
> 
> Having one bigger one could perhaps also give some breathing room to
> other more local/smaller conferences <http://www.code-conf.com/jues15/>
> on the subject :)
> 
> /B
> 
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Manuel Jesús Recena Soto
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     Hello James,
> 
>     (reply in line)
> 
>     2015-10-20 12:03 GMT+02:00 James Nord <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>     > Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in 
> Europe.
>     >
>     > Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me 
> was
>     > not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to 
> this.  As
>     > such it was easier to go to a european conference.   I also feel that 
> yes
>     > you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical mass 
> and a
>     > direct result of its much easier to go to something local than it is to
>     > travel 9 hours around the globe.  Do you have stats of where people came
>     > from in the last even - where they predominantly from the bay area?
>     > In the London event I met people that where very basic users of Jenkins
>     > (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local conference.  
> Would
>     > these same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross the 
> globe
>     > - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame.
>     >
>     > The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet - or 
> that
>     > it will be filled by next year  - certainly there is nothing in the UK 
> that
>     > I know of - and even then we would need something based in the north 
> west as
>     > well as somewhere around London.
> 
>     I had the opportunity to attend JUG London and was a great experience.
>     It would be a pity don't have this event in Europe.
> 
>     As you pointed, JAM events can fill this gap.
> 
>     In Spain, there are two JAM starting (Seville and Barcelona). Maybe
>     someday, we can organize a bigger event. Another open source
>     communities do something similar.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     > On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke Kawaguchi 
> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following proposed
>     >> changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC into 
> a new
>     >> model.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> 
> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016
>     >>
>     >> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I hope to
>     >> get discussions going well before that.
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> Kohsuke Kawaguchi

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