> On 20 Oct 2015, at 23:12, Alyssa <[email protected]> wrote: > > when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central location > where folks from diff parts of EU can conveniently attend. But it didn't turn > out that way - mainly local people attended. And of course one big event in > EU is very costly.
Agreed … the London venue should have been *very very* expensive! One world-wide location in USA would be better, more days and less travelling around the globe. What about doing a streaming event for people in Europe and Asia to attend remotely? Possibly organised in cooperation with SkillsMatters in the UK and other similar organisations in the rest of Europe. Luca. > The CB-Jenkins Summits will provide the oppty to bring Jenkins to local areas > as well as keep overhead down. > > On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: > Yes, the downside of not having JUC in Europe has been considered. > > One of the problems we had in the past few years with JUC in Europe has been > that we have never managed to create a truly pan-Europe event. When we do JUC > in Paris, only French people came. Did one in Berlin and only Germans came. > This year was in London and neither German nor French came. So I believe a > part of what led into the proposal (and Alyssa can correct me if I'm wrong) > is that the European audience would be served better by CloudBees-Jenkins > Summit part of the proposal, which allows us to run a sizable local event in > multiple locations while controlling the production overhead (such as CfP, > organizing agenda, etc.) > > > 2015-10-20 3:03 GMT-07:00 James Nord <[email protected] <javascript:>>: > Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in Europe. > > Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me was not > always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to this. As such > it was easier to go to a european conference. I also feel that yes you get > more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical mass and a direct > result of its much easier to go to something local than it is to travel 9 > hours around the globe. Do you have stats of where people came from in the > last even - where they predominantly from the bay area? > In the London event I met people that where very basic users of Jenkins (just > starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local conference. Would these > same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross the globe - I > personally don't think so - which would be a big shame. > > The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet - or that > it will be filled by next year - certainly there is nothing in the UK that I > know of - and even then we would need something based in the north west as > well as somewhere around London. > > > On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: > Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following proposed > changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC into a new > model. > > https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016 > <https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016> > > I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I hope to get > discussions going well before that. > > -- > Kohsuke Kawaguchi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-users/fd26a289-b46b-4c38-a8b0-34bcfc50feab%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-users/fd26a289-b46b-4c38-a8b0-34bcfc50feab%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > > -- > Kohsuke Kawaguchi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/0a84666c-6a00-4489-8350-51c5e0cebaf8%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/0a84666c-6a00-4489-8350-51c5e0cebaf8%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/ADA5C3A6-87E0-46BD-B3A0-717A40B73C6D%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
